Comments on: One Of Those Nights http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/ Covering the MLB with a focus on the Toronto Blue Jays Wed, 30 May 2012 13:18:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Cynthia http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-68184 Cynthia Thu, 08 Mar 2012 03:20:06 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-68184 My guess is the Phillies call all the teams that have blocked aylpers of whom the Phils think are very good just to ask what that team is thinking. Some teams trade the expensive encumbant (Phillies and Jim Thome) and some teams trade the minor league/rookie guy and keep the veteran. Some blocked aylpers can move to another position but catchers are more unique. Would the Phils try to steal DArnaud back? Of course, they'd try. Does DArnaud profile as better than Valle? Of course he does after a MVP season at AA. However, Toronto GM has done a terrific job and won't give DArnaud up for less than a large ransom and that will exclude the Phils who don't have much to give. As for all the Brown noise, the Phils will absolutely not trade him now. They still believe (hope?) they have a good player in Dom Brown who needs a full season in LF in AAA to get back to where he needs to be. I still think he's capable of hitting .320 there. How many position aylpers do we have that we think can hit .320 next year at their level? Any? Brown (and Gillies)has at least done it before. Lastly: trade Hamels? Not a chance, not even worth debating. He'll be signed to an extension before spring training. My guess is the Phillies call all the teams that have blocked aylpers of whom the Phils think are very good just to ask what that team is thinking. Some teams trade the expensive encumbant (Phillies and Jim Thome) and some teams trade the minor league/rookie guy and keep the veteran. Some blocked aylpers can move to another position but catchers are more unique. Would the Phils try to steal DArnaud back? Of course, they’d try. Does DArnaud profile as better than Valle? Of course he does after a MVP season at AA. However, Toronto GM has done a terrific job and won’t give DArnaud up for less than a large ransom and that will exclude the Phils who don’t have much to give. As for all the Brown noise, the Phils will absolutely not trade him now. They still believe (hope?) they have a good player in Dom Brown who needs a full season in LF in AAA to get back to where he needs to be. I still think he’s capable of hitting .320 there. How many position aylpers do we have that we think can hit .320 next year at their level? Any? Brown (and Gillies)has at least done it before. Lastly: trade Hamels? Not a chance, not even worth debating. He’ll be signed to an extension before spring training.

]]> By: Jack http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57272 Jack Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:10:03 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57272 AA has mentioned that next year could be a "contending" year. The mediocre pitching that he has now will not get him anything more than a .500 club, and THAT will not be anywhere close to a"contender" in the AL East. Let's hope he does some serious "shopping" over the winter. MW: Anthopoulos has never said that next year could be a contending year. He refuses, and rightly so, to put a timetable on anything or make any predictions about his team. And you can't honestly believe the Jays' bullpen will look anything next year like it does now. AA has mentioned that next year could be a “contending” year. The mediocre pitching that he has now will not get him anything more than a .500 club, and THAT will not be anywhere close to a”contender” in the AL East. Let’s hope he does some serious “shopping” over the winter.

MW: Anthopoulos has never said that next year could be a contending year. He refuses, and rightly so, to put a timetable on anything or make any predictions about his team. And you can’t honestly believe the Jays’ bullpen will look anything next year like it does now.

]]> By: Mort http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57259 Mort Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:01:14 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57259 Mike, I'm not sure how many Jays fans care about the race for 3rd place , but what will be interesting, don't you think , is ; will Bautista win the homer race ? How will Kelly Johnson do ? Will Lawrie continue to play well ? Will another young pitcher emerge like Perez? How will Hechevarria play if called up? Mike,
I’m not sure how many Jays fans care about the race for 3rd place ,

but what will be interesting, don’t you think , is ;
will Bautista win the homer race ?
How will Kelly Johnson do ?
Will Lawrie continue to play well ?
Will another young pitcher emerge like Perez?

How will Hechevarria play if called up?

]]> By: Anthony L http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57252 Anthony L Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:04:25 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57252 It sure seems as if the Jays have a tendency of getting handled by visiting Canadian pitchers lately with Harden (twice) and Francis now with 3 consecutive string starts @ Toronto. Moreover, including his days as a Rockie, Francis is 3-0 lifetime vs Toronto, and Ryan Dempster, post 2005 has a 0.00 ERA against the jays in albeit brief interleague appearances. It sure seems as if the Jays have a tendency of getting handled by visiting Canadian pitchers lately with Harden (twice) and Francis now with 3 consecutive string starts @ Toronto.

Moreover, including his days as a Rockie, Francis is 3-0 lifetime vs Toronto, and Ryan Dempster, post 2005 has a 0.00 ERA against the jays in albeit brief interleague appearances.

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57248 Anonymous Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:48:07 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57248 this kansas team looks to me better than their numbers.. other than team ERA, they (the numbers) are better than those of the Jays yet their record doesn't reflect that. looks to me that if their starters get a little more consistent, they could be contenders.. a great looking young team to me, and certainly not "sad sack". MW: If you're more than 20 games under .500, you're sad sack. this kansas team looks to me better than their numbers.. other than team ERA, they (the numbers) are better than those of the Jays yet their record doesn’t reflect that.

looks to me that if their starters get a little more consistent, they could be contenders.. a great looking young team to me, and certainly not “sad sack”.

MW: If you’re more than 20 games under .500, you’re sad sack.

]]> By: Jamie C http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57247 Jamie C Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:28:29 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57247 @Cito Man. If you read what you just reposted, you will clearly decipher the word "defensive". John McDonald, is the best defensive short stop of the era. There is not even room for comparison between him and Gonzalez. Gonzalez was a pretty good offender, but he was a very subpar defender, and has been throughout his career. You do have a bit of an argument with Yunel, but if you've watched Johnny Mac play for as long as Jays fans have, you'll know that Mac has made the highlight reel and played solid defence consistently for so long, that a man as young as Escobar has a way to go before he can be seen in the same light as Mr. McDonald. On a side note, you cant use All Star appearances to judge a defender. Additionally, unless you are a good offender, in addition to being a solid defender, you wont win a Rawlings Gold Glove, and don't pretend you don't know that. MW: Thanks! @Cito Man.
If you read what you just reposted, you will clearly decipher the word “defensive”. John McDonald, is the best defensive short stop of the era. There is not even room for comparison between him and Gonzalez. Gonzalez was a pretty good offender, but he was a very subpar defender, and has been throughout his career. You do have a bit of an argument with Yunel, but if you’ve watched Johnny Mac play for as long as Jays fans have, you’ll know that Mac has made the highlight reel and played solid defence consistently for so long, that a man as young as Escobar has a way to go before he can be seen in the same light as Mr. McDonald. On a side note, you cant use All Star appearances to judge a defender. Additionally, unless you are a good offender, in addition to being a solid defender, you wont win a Rawlings Gold Glove, and don’t pretend you don’t know that.

MW: Thanks!

]]> By: Cito Man http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57245 Cito Man Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:00:14 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57245 MW: Griffin was a terrific defensive shortstop. McDonald is one of the all-time best. I assume you limit this to the Jays. Alfredo Griffin was Rookie-of-year in the AL in 1979, was an AL All-Star in 1984 and won an AL Gold-Glove in 1985. Of all the Short-stops who played for the Jays, Tony Fernandez was the best. Four times AL All-Star, Four Gold-gloves and numerous votes for AL MVP over 4 years. Johnny Mac is clearly not as good as either of them. In addition he is not as good as Alex Gonzalez who played here last year (NL All-Star in 1999) or Yunel Escobar. Johnny Mac has a very good glove and an average arm. How that translates into "one of the all-time best" is beyond me. You need to stop rating ball-players (or managers) based on how accomodating they are to you. BTW isn't Johnny Mac the player whom we traded to Detriot for a "player to be named later" and was sent back as that player? MW: You need to actually read what's written and not change your argument so you'll be right. We were talking about defensive shortstops. All-star selections, rookie of the year awards and MVP voting have nothing to do with that. To suggest that McDonald's glove is only "very good" is patently ridiculous. MW: Griffin was a terrific defensive shortstop. McDonald is one of the all-time best.

I assume you limit this to the Jays. Alfredo Griffin was Rookie-of-year in the AL in 1979, was an AL All-Star in 1984 and won an AL Gold-Glove in 1985. Of all the Short-stops who played for the Jays, Tony Fernandez was the best. Four times AL All-Star, Four Gold-gloves and numerous votes for AL MVP over 4 years. Johnny Mac is clearly not as good as either of them. In addition he is not as good as Alex Gonzalez who played here last year (NL All-Star in 1999) or Yunel Escobar.
Johnny Mac has a very good glove and an average arm. How that translates into “one of the all-time best” is beyond me. You need to stop rating ball-players (or managers) based on how accomodating they are to you.

BTW isn’t Johnny Mac the player whom we traded to
Detriot for a “player to be named later” and was sent back as that player?

MW: You need to actually read what’s written and not change your argument so you’ll be right. We were talking about defensive shortstops. All-star selections, rookie of the year awards and MVP voting have nothing to do with that. To suggest that McDonald’s glove is only “very good” is patently ridiculous.

]]> By: David F. http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57237 David F. Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:17:30 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57237 "I will not break. I promise you that. I will miss you all and can't say how thankful I am for you support on the journey". Hello Mike, this quote from Travis on his twitter feed I'm sure you have seen. I'm guessing the first part "I will not break", I'm guessing that since he has an MRI in the past couple of days, he's hinting that he has an injury but it's not a broken bone or anything serious like that??...The last part "I will miss you all and can't say how thankful I am for you support on the journey" I'm thinking he may have a good feeling he could be done as a Blue Jay this off season & he thinks that there's a good chance he will be traded??...I see "journey" which I'm guessing he means big picture not necessary with the Jays, but his career as a whole...What is your translation of his tweet??...Thanx Mike MW: Wholly different from yours. I think you might be reading a little too much of what you want to see in that. Snider found out that he has tendinitis in his wrist and is being shut down for the season. He was tweeted that the news, which is one of many bumps on his road to a successful career, will not break him. He will miss the fans since he's not going to be playing again this season. I don't think he thinks he's done as a Blue Jay. “I will not break. I promise you that. I will miss you all and can’t say how thankful I am for you support on the journey”.

Hello Mike, this quote from Travis on his twitter feed I’m sure you have seen. I’m guessing the first part “I will not break”, I’m guessing that since he has an MRI in the past couple of days, he’s hinting that he has an injury but it’s not a broken bone or anything serious like that??…The last part “I will miss you all and can’t say how thankful I am for you support on the journey” I’m thinking he may have a good feeling he could be done as a Blue Jay this off season & he thinks that there’s a good chance he will be traded??…I see “journey” which I’m guessing he means big picture not necessary with the Jays, but his career as a whole…What is your translation of his tweet??…Thanx Mike

MW: Wholly different from yours. I think you might be reading a little too much of what you want to see in that. Snider found out that he has tendinitis in his wrist and is being shut down for the season. He was tweeted that the news, which is one of many bumps on his road to a successful career, will not break him. He will miss the fans since he’s not going to be playing again this season. I don’t think he thinks he’s done as a Blue Jay.

]]> By: francis http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57231 francis Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:20:12 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57231 Hi Mike I can't imagine pitching with strep throat and high fever. I would stay home from work and I work in the office. I heard your talk about Lind struggling. Thames & Escobar are as well, though not as bad. Lind is batting well under .200 in the last 10 games and as you are aware, dropped his average from .300 to around .260. Yikes. Glad to see Arencibia's progress at the plate. Do you think the Jays will keep Molina for next year? MW: No, I don't. Hi Mike

I can’t imagine pitching with strep throat and high fever. I would stay home from work and I work in the office.

I heard your talk about Lind struggling. Thames & Escobar are as well, though not as bad. Lind is batting well under .200 in the last 10 games and as you are aware, dropped his average from .300 to around .260. Yikes.

Glad to see Arencibia’s progress at the plate. Do you think the Jays will keep Molina for next year?

MW: No, I don’t.

]]> By: Lok http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2011/08/26/one-of-those-nights/#comment-57195 Lok Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:35:37 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/?p=1067#comment-57195 Do you think AA just acquired Johnson to get the draft picks when he leaves as an FA, or does he see Johnson as the 2B of the future for this team too? MW: Both Do you think AA just acquired Johnson to get the draft picks when he leaves as an FA, or does he see Johnson as the 2B of the future for this team too?

MW: Both

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