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		<title>By: slobberface</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/09/27/the-saturday-afternoon-jaystalk/#comment-41516</link>
		<dc:creator>slobberface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-Dub,
stop apologizing for the morons in the lime-green windgreakers.
Nobody gets kicked out for throwing homerun balls back on to the field. Security pretends not to see it. Guess what else happens in every major city? You get ticketed for J-Walking...by loser cops with nothing better to do.

MW:  Only in Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-Dub,<br />
stop apologizing for the morons in the lime-green windgreakers.<br />
Nobody gets kicked out for throwing homerun balls back on to the field. Security pretends not to see it. Guess what else happens in every major city? You get ticketed for J-Walking&#8230;by loser cops with nothing better to do.</p>
<p>MW:  Only in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: ROB</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/09/27/the-saturday-afternoon-jaystalk/#comment-41494</link>
		<dc:creator>ROB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

Why does Jerry and Alan criticize J.P and Rogers Inc. and you always defend their actions.

MW:  I&#039;d have a really good answer for that if your assertion were true.  But it isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>Why does Jerry and Alan criticize J.P and Rogers Inc. and you always defend their actions.</p>
<p>MW:  I&#8217;d have a really good answer for that if your assertion were true.  But it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveW</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/09/27/the-saturday-afternoon-jaystalk/#comment-41459</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=cartejo01&amp;year=1990&amp;t=b#bases

I hope that the above link works.  If you scroll down to the &quot;Bases Occupied&quot; section you will see that Joe Carter had 634 AB for SD in 1990.  321 were with the bases empty, and 313 with men on base.  188 ABs with one on, 86 with two on, and 21 with the bases full.  A total of 423 runners (188+172+63).

At least thats how I see their numbers.

Steve

MW:  Don&#039;t look at at-bats, look at plate appearances.  I did the math above.</description>
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<p>I hope that the above link works.  If you scroll down to the &#8220;Bases Occupied&#8221; section you will see that Joe Carter had 634 AB for SD in 1990.  321 were with the bases empty, and 313 with men on base.  188 ABs with one on, 86 with two on, and 21 with the bases full.  A total of 423 runners (188+172+63).</p>
<p>At least thats how I see their numbers.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
<p>MW:  Don&#8217;t look at at-bats, look at plate appearances.  I did the math above.</p>
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		<title>By: Slobberface</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/09/27/the-saturday-afternoon-jaystalk/#comment-41422</link>
		<dc:creator>Slobberface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comment #10
what a load of crap you just typed

MW:   Who, me or the commenter?  It says on your ticket that you&#039;re not allowed to throw objects onto the field.  Even in parks where tossing back an opposition home run ball is a tradition, the tosser gets tossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment #10<br />
what a load of crap you just typed</p>
<p>MW:   Who, me or the commenter?  It says on your ticket that you&#8217;re not allowed to throw objects onto the field.  Even in parks where tossing back an opposition home run ball is a tradition, the tosser gets tossed.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW: Are you sure that 1+2+3 isn’t 8?

I am trying to be serious. the fact is joe carter never came up with 542 runners on.

MW:  I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a fact.  In fact, according to baseball-reference.com, Carter came up with a runner only on first 130 times, only on second 52 times and only on third 23 times (and only drove that runner in FIVE times, by the way).  He came up with runners at first and second 65 times, runners at first and third 33 times, runners at second and third 33 times and with the bases loaded 25 times.  So that&#039;s 130+52+23+(65*2)+(33*2)+(33*2)+(25*3) which comes out to 542 in my books, unless there&#039;s some double-counting going on that I&#039;m not seeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: Are you sure that 1+2+3 isn’t 8?</p>
<p>I am trying to be serious. the fact is joe carter never came up with 542 runners on.</p>
<p>MW:  I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s a fact.  In fact, according to baseball-reference.com, Carter came up with a runner only on first 130 times, only on second 52 times and only on third 23 times (and only drove that runner in FIVE times, by the way).  He came up with runners at first and second 65 times, runners at first and third 33 times, runners at second and third 33 times and with the bases loaded 25 times.  So that&#8217;s 130+52+23+(65*2)+(33*2)+(33*2)+(25*3) which comes out to 542 in my books, unless there&#8217;s some double-counting going on that I&#8217;m not seeing.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW: Go look on the 1990 game log page for Joe Carter.

I see where you get the number mike, but sorry it is wrong. they are making the same mistake I just explained.  I emailed the site.  I&#039;ll let you know if they fix it. but please dont tell me you still actually believe it?

just in case you do. I&#039;ll put it as simply as I can

1+2=3

2+3-5

1+2+3=8 WRONG

you cant simply add the totals.

MW:  Are you sure that 1+2+3 isn&#039;t 8?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: Go look on the 1990 game log page for Joe Carter.</p>
<p>I see where you get the number mike, but sorry it is wrong. they are making the same mistake I just explained.  I emailed the site.  I&#8217;ll let you know if they fix it. but please dont tell me you still actually believe it?</p>
<p>just in case you do. I&#8217;ll put it as simply as I can</p>
<p>1+2=3</p>
<p>2+3-5</p>
<p>1+2+3=8 WRONG</p>
<p>you cant simply add the totals.</p>
<p>MW:  Are you sure that 1+2+3 isn&#8217;t 8?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly, Adam Lind, and suddenly, everybody else on this team can mash the baseball. One of the other blogs centered around this team has a rule that you should ignore anything that happens in September or April. If that&#039;s true, then i think this franchise needs the shuffle of the deck that you speculated on last post.

And I like Cito, I really do, but if I were the President or GM, I&#039;d fire him just because he&#039;s really hurting my chances of finding out whether or not Ruiz, Phillips, and Snider have anything to offer at the Major League level.

But we don&#039;t have a President or GM who actually has the ability to do something as radical as firing anybody, do we?

MW:  A president, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, Adam Lind, and suddenly, everybody else on this team can mash the baseball. One of the other blogs centered around this team has a rule that you should ignore anything that happens in September or April. If that&#8217;s true, then i think this franchise needs the shuffle of the deck that you speculated on last post.</p>
<p>And I like Cito, I really do, but if I were the President or GM, I&#8217;d fire him just because he&#8217;s really hurting my chances of finding out whether or not Ruiz, Phillips, and Snider have anything to offer at the Major League level.</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t have a President or GM who actually has the ability to do something as radical as firing anybody, do we?</p>
<p>MW:  A president, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Pramit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pramit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW: 1 - Good question. It’s not as though upper management told him to use Ryan as the closer, because they’ve certainly told him not to play Kevin Millar so much and to get Randy Ruiz in the line-up. 2 - As far as I know, it’s mostly about cutting back on comps.

Stupid follow up question, but what do you mean by &#039;comps&#039;?

MW:  Complimentary tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: 1 &#8211; Good question. It’s not as though upper management told him to use Ryan as the closer, because they’ve certainly told him not to play Kevin Millar so much and to get Randy Ruiz in the line-up. 2 &#8211; As far as I know, it’s mostly about cutting back on comps.</p>
<p>Stupid follow up question, but what do you mean by &#8216;comps&#8217;?</p>
<p>MW:  Complimentary tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW: I’m sorry you don’t believe me, but it is. Carter came to bat that season with 253 runners on first, 175 runners on second and 114 runners on third for a total of 542. Just another number that’s readily available at baseball-reference.com!

I&#039;m sorry mike, but you are clearly wrong.  do you really think ANY player would come up with 3.3 runners on every game? first there is no category on baseball reference that shows those numbers so I surmise you simply added the categories in &quot;bases occupied&quot; section.  but what you did wrong was double count the categories.  the section &quot;men on&quot; totals 361 PA which includes every possible combination and equals the sum of the 7 possible combinations. so joe carter came up with 361 total runners on, not 542.  what you did wrong was double count the categories. ex --2 and -23 you added to get 1 number, then you added --3 and -23 to get another number then combined the two, but the -23 category you added twice, one for runners on second and another for runners on third. if you dont believe me then add up every combination individually, the total is 361, not 542.

MW:  Go look on the 1990 game log page for Joe Carter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: I’m sorry you don’t believe me, but it is. Carter came to bat that season with 253 runners on first, 175 runners on second and 114 runners on third for a total of 542. Just another number that’s readily available at baseball-reference.com!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry mike, but you are clearly wrong.  do you really think ANY player would come up with 3.3 runners on every game? first there is no category on baseball reference that shows those numbers so I surmise you simply added the categories in &#8220;bases occupied&#8221; section.  but what you did wrong was double count the categories.  the section &#8220;men on&#8221; totals 361 PA which includes every possible combination and equals the sum of the 7 possible combinations. so joe carter came up with 361 total runners on, not 542.  what you did wrong was double count the categories. ex &#8211;2 and -23 you added to get 1 number, then you added &#8211;3 and -23 to get another number then combined the two, but the -23 category you added twice, one for runners on second and another for runners on third. if you dont believe me then add up every combination individually, the total is 361, not 542.</p>
<p>MW:  Go look on the 1990 game log page for Joe Carter.</p>
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		<title>By: chris m.</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike....Of course a lot of things point to Papelbon hitting Lind on purpose, but playing the other side for a moment, why would he eager to put a potential insurance run on base after his team came roaring back to within one run in the bottom of the 8th?

MW:  When there are two out and nobody on and you hit a guy who has just hit three homers with the first pitch, you&#039;re not really disguising your intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike&#8230;.Of course a lot of things point to Papelbon hitting Lind on purpose, but playing the other side for a moment, why would he eager to put a potential insurance run on base after his team came roaring back to within one run in the bottom of the 8th?</p>
<p>MW:  When there are two out and nobody on and you hit a guy who has just hit three homers with the first pitch, you&#8217;re not really disguising your intentions.</p>
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