11:15 PM Eastern
Hard to believe, isn’t it? This was the seventh walk-off win for the Jays this season (although it was only the third since the halcyon days of 27-14) and who better to walk it off than Aaron Hill, with RBI number 100?
Hill had homered earlier to get number 99, but struck out with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th when almost any kind of contact would have won the game, so it was sweet redemption for him in his next at-bat. I didn’t actually think he’d get a chance to get that next at-bat, though – I thought John McDonald had won the game with his little looper over first with the bases loaded in the 10th, but it just didn’t carry enough to get over Michael Aubrey.
Edwin Encarnacion looked pretty good out of the third-hole, too, belting a pair of homers – neither one a cheapie. Eddie has really started to turn it on since coming off the disabled list, and I think he’d be changing the minds of a lot of people who wanted to ride him out of town on a rail after his first couple of weeks here, if any of them were still paying attention.
The Jays are now 7-1 against the Orioles at home this season and 1-5 against them in Baltimore. Go figure. They’re also now 3-67 when trailing after eight innings.
Here’s tonight’s edition of The JaysTalk, for your listening pleasure – The Fan590′s own Eric Smith stopped by and we had a lovely chat, while also taking some calls. Enjoy:
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I’m almost glad that the attendance has become sparse. Do you think ownership is getting the message?
MW: What’s the message?
- Sean in LethbridgeMike, I know you like Randy Ruiz’s numbers and it was good to see him in the game tonight. But I want to argue that Jose Bautista has been turning it on lately and I think he’s really trying to make a bid to be an everyday OF. In the past 28 days, he’s hitting only .229. But of his 16 hits, 8 were for extra bases, including 4 HRs. He’s 4th on the team in OPS at .835 (he’s walking alot. He’s assisting very well in OF. So why not Bautista, especially if there is no trade in the off-season? But you can’t argue with the stats over the past 4 weeks, Bautista is hitting (slightly) better than Ruiz in every category (BA, OBP, SLG, OPS).
I don’t see Ruiz in the every day lineup under Cito. And given that Cito doesn’t like to pinch hit that much (though it was a great surprise to see Lind and Overbay pinch), I only see Ruiz on the bench. I just can’t see both Bautista and Ruiz on the team playing every day and the way Cito is putting things together he’s favoring Bautista.
Encarnancion is starting to come on strong. He’s playing alot better at 3rd but still needs improvement. As he hitter, you cannot argue that he’s fully come around.
It was completely awesome to see Hill hit his 100th RBI such great fashion. He deserves it. What a fantastic year, both for him and Adam Lind.
But I’m starting to realize that the Jays need to spend some money to get a couple of high quality players and if that’s going to happen, the Encarnancion / Bautista / Johnny Macs might have to move over. And you have got to find a great combination of a set-up man and a closer in the bullpen for next year. There are a lot of arms in the bullpen who might qualify: Frasor, Downs, Accardo, Carlson. But none of them have shown the quality to be a 30 or 40 game closer like Nathan or Papelbaum. And given the stat I gave to you a couple of days ago about the team’s records after the 6th inning (Jays and Yankees are identical after 6 innings), it goes to show you that the Jays are generally not hitting nor holding after the sixth and there is great room for improvement. Certainly this year was completely unlucky with Downs getting injured and reinjured and the self-destruction of BJ Ryan. But maybe the team knowing that there is that quality of pitching late in the game will keep the pressure off the hitters to perform late in the game (which may cause them to tighten up a bit and have the opposite effect). Tonight was an exception but it was the Orioles.
MW: Dig this, though – last year the Blue Jays had the best bullpen in baseball, and by a long shot. And yet the won-loss record of their relievers was 15-23. That didn’t have anything to do with their combination of great set-up man and closer. Jeremy Accardo does have a 30-save season under his belt, too. As for the Ruiz/Bautista thing, I’m not sure why you decided on 28 days. If you go back another five, then over the last 33 days Ruiz has hit .270/.373/.508 and Bautista has hit .231/.369/.429 for an OPS difference of over 80 points in Ruiz’ favour. The question is, I guess, is the defense of Snider/Wells/Bautista worth more than the bat of Ruiz in combination with the defense of Lind/Wells/Snider? But even moreso than that, Ruiz is a guy who has a shot to be a 30-homer man, Bautista isn’t.
- TimHey Mike
It is unfortunate that the Jays have to contend with the Yanks and the BoSox in the regular season every year. Mark from Caledonia has a point though, its a complete waste of time to whine about the division and the scheduling. The Jays would be better off focusing ON THINGS THEY CAN CONTROL. Chirping about the division is a waste of time, suck it up and deal with the cards you have been dealt. Pump more money into the draft and stop missing with the big ticket free agents (IE Ryan, Wells, Rios, Thomas).
The deck is stacked against them but with proper management, they can once again become a contender.
MW: Only if they spend a big whack of money. The deck is stacked against them, and it’s stacked only against them, the Rays and the Orioles. Pointing that out isn’t whining.
- rickMW,
Rance mentioned on the tv broadcast that there was some positive news regarding mcgowan which is consistent with what I’ve read in your comments section from you although there wasn’t much elaboration to what exactly has changed with Dustin. Please update. Thanks.
MW: There’s really no update other than things are going very well in his rehab. There’s still nothing expected of him, but there’s more cause for optimism than there has been the last few months.
- JHey Mike,
I seem to be noting Encarnacion’s errant throws less than I did when he arrived in TO. Is it just a small sample size in terms of tosses? Is there anywhere I could go to look something like this up?
MW: It depends on how errant you want to look up. I don’t know that there’s anywhere (but here) you could go to look up the number of throws that a player has made that have had to be saved by the first baseman.
- Kevin A.Hey Mike,
Still quite concerned about team direction. My question, this past year Raptors fans got upset over the loss of fan favourites with potential (ie. Pops Mensa-Bonsu), but the reality is that he was a bit player on a bad team. When the roster got overhauled, he clearly didn’t have the skills to fit. Is this a similar scenario with Randy Ruiz and Eddie Encarnacion? Yes, they could be potential DH’s but couldn’t they also be bit players on a BAD team? Couldn’t they be lost in a roster overhaul??
MW: Ruiz certainly could be lost in a roster overhaul, but Encarnacion hit 26 homers last year and he’s young – he has the potential to be a lot more than roster filler.
- JonMike,
Got free tickets to the game from my son’s little league association. We are going to the Saturday afternoon game vs Seatle. My son is a huge Aaron Hill fan and I would like to get an autographed ball/shirt for his birthday (saturday too). Any ideas/suggestion on how I could get an autograph from him that day? thanks! … PD… I live in Waterloo Region and I’m not familiar with the autograph sessions before the game, if there is any.
MW: It’s pretty difficult. The only way I have seen is to try to catch the player’s eye as he’s walking towards the dugout during batting practice. Some of them stop and sign. I’m sorry to say that your odds aren’t good.
- ALTEdwin Encarnacion is definitely worth giving a second look. I think he’s on the hot corner for 2010 based on early results.
He’s not Scott Rolen, but chances are, even Scott Rolen won’t be Scott Rolen forever.
Since coming over, he’s easily surpassing Alex Rios’ post-Jay production. Although, looking at the Rios numbers it looks like he’s in a deeper funk than ever. Perhaps he’s deliberately tanking in order to set himself up as a future comeback player of the year? Or else he’s just a living ghost.
MW: Or maybe he’s just having a terrible couple of months. Still, it’s not much of a yardstick against which to measure Encarnacion’s production. I’m not even playing, and I’M having a better month than Rios.
- JohnWell, at least the Jays had more people at their game then Oakland. Not as many as attended the Ray’s game but…
Nice to see the Jays come back and win. Not that it matters much. Blame it on injuries, as Gaston seems to be doing, blame it on a tough division but there is no getting away from the fact that interest in the Jays is reaching a point that should concern ownership.
I personally can’t be bothered going to any more games. The trip just isn’t worth it. Even whe the Yankees come to town….As for 2010,I just don’t care.
MW: And you have a lot of company, which does indeed have to concern ownership.
- DougMike how many 3 run deficits have the Jays now overcome this season ? Are they still the only team to not come back from a 4 run deficit ?
The 9th inning looked to me a microcosm of the 2009 season. Bases loaded with one out. The Jays have not had a problem gettign guys on base. The Hill/EEE strike outs were sadly typical of the Jays performance in those situations. The impatience and poor decisions (ie swinging at bad pitches)in those at-bats just summed up the offense for me. (the walk-off was a nice conclusion though) Comparing how Boston/NYY/LAA batters perform in those situations is another contrast. They make you pay dearly when your pitcher is on the ropes like Johnson was in the 9th.
I’ll be there Friday to watch Ichiro and cheer for the Jays. I really hope to see anyone-but-Millar for the Jays.
My #1 highlight of the year nomination for the Jays 2009 – Scutaro stealing 2nd on a walk.
MW: It’d take a LONG time for me to look up how many three-run deficits the Jays have overcome this season, it’s been several. I believe they’re still the only team not to overcome a four-run deficit and win this season. I’ll give you the BOS/NYY guys, but not LAA.
- Rezmichael,
more than a couple observations….
down at the yard last night, giving most likely my last rights to the team & season as it winds down. always bittersweet regardless of the season progression.
so i know i commented on this before but double e down at the hot corner certainly has a major league hr stroke. 2 more shots last night & not of the meager variety as you most properly pointed out.
i guess that’s at least 1 thing to stroke off the to do list in the offseason for this team. still young, his d looks manageable & power at that spot & not “terribly” expensive i guess.
i’m not sure where his average will end up next yr. if he plays everyday but i’m pretty sure he’ll hit at least 30 hr’s for fun. that’s always nice….
and i’ll tell you, you’ve been right on that trade since the day it was consummated. lots of returns back to the good guys on that one. aside from ee, roenicke seems like a rh arm to plug in as at least a set guy with his mid 90′s stuff & if that young starter (name escapes me) in the deal turns into a bonafide ml starter… well, that trade by the gm is going to be one that the masses will be talking up for yrs. to come.
and it’s quite something i believe that hill & lind are both in the top 10 in hr’s & top 6 i think in the entire a.l. in rbi’s.
that’s kind of impressive for a middle of the pack payroll team to have 2 that high up there. (there’s lots of players in this league)
but best of all, neither are even likely close to their career peak as of yet, based on age. & yrs. of duty.
hill’s season in particular is quite astounding isn’t it? who knew he’d maybe become one of the very best power hitter in the game of all the 2b, let alone the entire game.
just find/sign or trade for 1 more guy to plug in over the offseason that rivals their #’s & you’ll no doubt have a middle of the order that stacks up against anyone. here’s hoping on that one…
interesting thing i noticed when looking up the hr & rbi leaders this yr.
the n.l. actually has a decided lead in both those categories. maybe just unusual to me as it seems that the jr. loop tends to have the dominating totals in those categories.
and lastly michael, have we ever witnessed such lack lustre pennant race(s) and even wild card races thruout as this yr. has shown? i’m guessing maybe never.
finally over & out. cheers.
MW: The races have certainly lacked lustre, no question about it. It’s too bad – usually there are about half a dozen teams within three games of the N.L. wild card around now. Zack Stewart is the name that escaped you. I wouldn’t be as sure that Encarnacion could hit 30 homers “for fun”. He’s never done it to this point in his career, and was playing in a VERY homer-friendly park in Cincinnati. The National League may have the bigger totals for the home run leaders, but the A.L. has hit 51 more homers despite having two fewer teams.
- darrell bishophey mike
just for fun. give me the most sterotypical playoff team lineup. batting avg and home runs and rbis. and than give me the 5 starters win loss and era.
MW: That doesn’t sound like fun.
- Han SoloAll these ideas about how to make it easier for the jays to make the playoffs? Why not form a division of all teams that are named after birds? Or how about cities that start with T? Or what about a Canadian division? Hell, even the Jays could win that one.
MW: That’s not a very productive comment.
- Rick GraceHi Mike,
I know that Toronto doesn’t have the baseball hotbed culture that does Boston but why can’t the Jays just mimic the Boston model for success?
The way I see it is that since the new ownership in Boston the Red Sox have:
1) Drafted better than the Jays
2) Been a major factor in the international market for players, unlike the Jays
3) Generated more revenue from their stadium unlike the Jays
Why can’t the Jays just follow that format?
Also, the Red Sox seem to have a very clear philosophy about constructing an offensive lineup full of players who either have a high OBP or see a lot of pitches or force the opposing pitcher to throw strikes and basically wear down the opposing pitcher. The benefit of this strategy seems to be in the combined effect of a whole of a lineup full of these guys.
Why can’t the Jays do this?
MW: They drafted better in part because they were willing to spend more in the draft, and they’ve been a major factor internationally also because of money that they’ve been willing to spend and the Jays haven’t. The stadium thing is Boston-specific – or at least Toronto-unspecific – Fenway Park is far, far different than Rogers Centre. Also, baseball in Boston is like hockey in Toronto. There’s a big difference.
- JamieHow old is Roy.Halladay?
Is his great GREAT pitching over?
Because I think the Jays should trade him, which I know you can never win in terms of the trade if you trade our franchise player
Who should the Jays go for in young pitching in trading a guy like Roy Halladay?
MW: Halladay is 32, and his great GREAT pitching ability didn’t somehow mysteriously leave him in mid-June. I don’t know if there’s a specific target in mind for a trade, you just want to get as many great young players as you can.
- Raps Fanis snider better seeing piteches? working outpitches? whats a pitchers pitch?
MW: Snider is more likely seeing the ball better. I don’t know what you mean by working outpitches and the last question has been asked and answered.
- nikMike – do you think there is any reason the Jays should try to give Roy 3 more starts ? Friday vs Seattle, then one of the Boston games are assured. It would be less than 5 days rest but IF Roy has 17 wins don’t you think he should get a shot at winning #18 at Baltimore on the last day of the season ?
MW: I don’t really see why.
- RezSomething occurred to me that I found very ironic. you know that saying about karma, what goes around comes around? remember 8 years ago when ash traded wells for sirotka and he was injured? well it was none other than kenny williams who pulled that fast one and it resulted in ash getting fired. well fast forward 8 years and here we are now with kenny williams trying to pull another fast one with rios. if rios is washed up then surely it will be the death knoll for kenny. I’m sure ash is smiling.
- choneMike…..I realize stats don’t lie, but Jose Bautista just “seems” to be a better than .230 hitter. That’s not just based on tonight’s success, but just a personal opinion. Love his glove and isn’t a liability anywhere with the leather.
MW: It’s because batting average doesn’t really mean much.
- chris m.Hi Mike,
If the Jays bullpen looks like this next year: (is there 7 spots usually?)
Carlson
Downs
League
Frasor
Tallet
Janssen
Camp
Then what happens to Accardo and Roenicke? Theres not enough spots.
Also, do you see the Jays re-signing Overbay after next year? How does 2 years 8 million sound?
MW: I don’t see the Jays re-signing Overbay after next season and I wonder how the bullpen would shake down. Accardo, at least, should have a prominent spot. It might wind up being Tallet and Camp fighting for a look.
- Jamie THey Mike,
Just a quick question based on some of the posts above. The Jays look like they should have a bit of an excess in the bullpen next year. Is it reaching too much to think that they could get a valuable piece in a trade for maybe a reliever or too? Just quickly off the top of my head, could something like League for one of Texas’ young catchers? Along those same lines, if the Jays do go out and sign a big-money DH and have little use for Randy Ruiz, does he have any value on the trade market?
Thanks a lot!
MW: Ruiz has no value on the trade market at all. They could trade a good reliever or two, there’s definitely a surplus there, but I don’t think the return would be as great as you think.
- BretHey Mike
Post #3
MW: Only if they spend a big whack of money. The deck is stacked against them, and it’s stacked only against them, the Rays and the Orioles. Pointing that out isn’t whining.
Tampa didn’t need to spend a big whack of money to win the division last year. It is more difficult for the Jays, O’s and Rays competing in the east, but the real reason these teams don’t contend is because they are poorly managed.
If you take the best record each year from either Toronto, Baltimore or Tampa over the last 10 years, do you know how many times it would have been good enough to win the AL Central or West? Other than Tampa last year, the answer is ZERO.
MW: You’re correct, but what makes you think that the Jays, Orioles or (Devil) Rays would have had the same record had they not been playing in the East? And if Tampa won the division last year without spending a big whack of money because it’s such a well-managed team, why are the Rays 18 1/2 games back and struggling to stay over .500 this year with a team that most believed was even better than the one that was there last year?
- rickMike, will you please stop using the Rays record now as evidence that they cannot be held up as the example to argue against the Boston/NY hold on the AL East? Here’s why. They made a mistake trading Edwin Jackson (and, unlike JP, their GM would probably own up to that). Andy Sonnestine dropped off the map. Kazmir had a poor start and they didn’t want to ante up to keep him even though he was turning things around (and has continued to do so with LAA). Finally, they lost their 40 HR hitter in August. If the Jays lost a player like Carlos Pena, then JP and yourself would have given us the “woe is me” treatment because of injuries. For sure, we’ve heard that excuse enough times in prior years.
MW: Edwin Jackson is having a terrific year for the Tigers this year, but he had a WHIP over 1.5 last season, so he was no great key to their success. See above – the real difference between the Rays of this year and the Rays of last year is the fact that last year, they were 29-18 in one-run games, and this year they’re 18-24. And what’s that? Mostly dumb luck.
- Lorne CohenMW: You’re correct, but what makes you think that the Jays, Orioles or (Devil) Rays would have had the same record had they not been playing in the East? And if Tampa won the division last year without spending a big whack of money because it’s such a well-managed team, why are the Rays 18 1/2 games back and struggling to stay over .500 this year with a team that most believed was even better than the one that was there last year?
Mike I noticed that you never posted my comments about JP and all the things that he does that “Really make sense” I see that when your points are proven WRONG you don’t post. That is Ok though, just as long as I know that for some reason you shoot down Cito for things like playing Millar although Jays are way out of it. Does it not occure to you that maybe Cito is advised to play these guys to give them a chance to showcase themselves for other teams as they go into free agency, Guys like Ruiz and snider will most definitely be in camp next year, they will have jobs.
On another note
Mike you keep shooting down Tampa, i really don’t understand, Tampa has a very low payroll and still managed to compete this year for a wildcard spot until a recent slide. 2. They were also still competitive despite getting off to a slow start, having Kazmir struggle, sonsine was sent back to the minors, Edwin Jackson moved, Evan Longoria stuggled with the injury to the hamstring and the second baseman Iwamura
out for most of the year. After all of this Tampa the team in the bottom six in the league in payroll will possibly finish with a winning record and way ahead of the Jays who they have owned this year.
MW: I didn’t post your last comment because it was even more snarky and sarcastic than this one. Why on Earth would it be more important for the Blue Jays to help Kevin Millar get a contract next year then to give the guys who are actually going to be here next year some major-league experience?
- THomasHi Mike,
just heard the Jaystalk from tuesday with Eric Smith, really enjoyed it and made a nice change as some comments from fans get a little repetitive after a while. I know the show is a forum for fans to express their opinions which is great, to hear the heartbeat of what the fans are thinking on a nightly basis. But once in a while a round table of special guests would be really cool and just a little different. What do you think?
Thanks as always
MW: It would be kind of cool, and I try to get special guests in when I can, but it’s not possible to get writers or other reporters who cover the team on the post-game – they’re working.
- ukJaymichael,
so we just pull out the brooms for the orioles series.
seem to be on a serious roll right now. with vw leading the majors in batting average since early sept. a whopping .421. i think.
anyway i’m thinking that if we run the table here we may still be in this thing. who’s with me?…..
MW: Sigh.
- darrell bishopMike,
Out of curiousity, where do you go to find out the contract details and rules for any particular player? I can’t seem to find anything reliable out there, and/or I don’t know the rules.
I still like Bautista over Ruiz. I used 28 days because it’s a split that Baseball- reference.com has. But let’s try this to be fair:
Ruiz BA/OBS/SLG/OPS .274/.352/.526/.878.
Bautista since August 11th when Ruiz showed up:
.231/.363/.431/.794
So you are right!!! It is essentially a question of Ruiz’s pop vs Bautista’s versatility.
Fantastic to see a sweep even if it is the Orioles.
In the end, the Jays probably need a few items at least get above .500 next year:
(1) a consistent 8-9 inning closing punch (probably a combination of Accardo/Downs/Frasor)
(2) better starting pitching (Halladay / Marcum / Litsch / Romero / RipCecTalRichmondletilcynski???)
(3)a hitting September / April Vernon Wells all year round.
(4)a fast basestealer (trade) who can hit both L and RHP.
(5)a homerun bopper (is this Ruiz)?
(6) Strong infielders to replace Scutaro / MacDonald should they not get re-signed.
(7) A non-platooning 1B who can hit LHP.
(8) LUCK.
-Tim
MW: Cot’s Baseball Contracts is the best website I know for contract information. What do you mean by rules?
- TimHey Mike
Why are the Rays currently 18 1/2 games out of first place ? Well, they spend 1/3 of the total payroll of the Yanks, so when they get a few injuries and guys like Burrell, Upton and Kazmir have off years, they are not going to be in contention. With guys like Pena, Upton, Longoria, Garza, Price, Neimann and more top prospects on the way (Jennings/Davis), they will make some noise again in the near future.
I agree with you for the most part Mike, its tough to compete in the AL East, but it isn’t impossible. As a diehard Jays fan, i don’t expect them to be in contention every season (even though Rogers has the resources to if they wanted). After 15 years of not playing a meaningful game in September, you have to put a large portion of the blame on management. JP had opportunities over the last 9 years to have a contending club but he choose not deal make any deals to take a run.
I want to see JP fired, and it has zero to do with his personality. I agree with you that JP isn’t the worst GM in baseball (he’s probably average) and he has made some decent moves along the way, but ultimately all he has proven over the last decade is that he doesn’t have what it takes to turn the Jays into an occasional contender. I acknowledge the disadvantages to playing in the East, but stop constantly using them as a crutch for poor performance. Bring in a GM who will be a little more creative and find a way to contend one in a while, its the only way the fans will start showing up again.
MW: I’d be inclined to agree with you a little more if there had been other occasional contenders in the A.L. East over the last dozen seasons. But other than the Red Sox and Yankees, it’s only happened once. Of course it’s not impossible to compete in the East, it’s just highly improbable unless you’re willing to spend with the big boys.
- rickMr Wilner
in a post above from rick, you mention that if Tampa was such a well managed team then why are they 18.5 games back and struggling to be above 500 in such a tough division.
Well mike one could look at this in two ways. one that tampa had a dream season last year or that injuries this season to key personal on the rays contributed to their demise.
I believe the latter is the case. Now i know every team has injuries to deal with, but i think its quite a statement with all that tampa has against them they still have stayed above 500 in such a tough division. Furthermore they have dominated the jays this year and will finish ahead of toronto with much less money to work with and resourses at their disposal.
Yes its true that toronto, tampa and baltimore has less room for errors, but when a team like the jays ignores the draft by not signing 3 of their 4 top picks and continues to make bad gambles in free agency(bj ryan, frank thomas) and horrible long term contracts in wells and rios, its all magnified.
How did tampa finally rise to prominance mike. I believe its that little get together in june called the amateur draft. To bad JP ignores that event by not signing the guys he takes.
MW: You believe that’s how Tampa finally rose to prominence for one year? I think if you look a little deeper you’ll see it took a lot more than that. It’s injuries that have dropped them back? Like missing Scott Kazmir, Evan Longoria and Carl Crawford for a month each? Oh, no wait, that was last season. And anyway, I thought injuries weren’t allowed to be used as an excuse for a lack of performance. It really is a shame that Ricciardi ignores the draft, too – otherwise the Jays could have guys like Aaron Hill, Adam Lind, Shaun Marcum, Travis Snider, Casey Janssen, Jesse Litsch, Marc Rzepczynski and Brett Cecil.
- mark in caledoniaMr Wilner
You mentioned names like marcum, cecil, janssen, Litsch and rzepczynski. these are not exactly world beaters of MLB. these are what most teams in MLB would consider average to just above. Ive always said in the past that lind and hill were solid picks but happened 2-3 plus years ago. My point above centered around more recent drafts like 2009 when JP and jays brass cant sign 3 of their top four picks in the amateur draft because of going on the cheap.
I would say the latter is more likely to happen now a days with crowds closer to a family reunion than MLB worthy.
I guess with the drafted names you mentioned above the jays dont have a need to hit free agency for the figgins of the world when the stable of blue chippers role out the jays farm system.
Where is david cooper when we need him
MW: I think you’re looking for perfection, which makes you like a lot of the fans. How many major league teams have produced arms like those mentioned above over the past four years through the draft?
- mark in caledoniaWow, Mike!
Will Demar Derozan will be fan favorite!
I thought you just know baseball but, I was wrong!
Thinking of joining Eric and Paul Jones in a Raptors Broadcast?
MW: Glad to have impressed you. If Eric and Paul ask, I’ll stop by, sure.
- Raps Fan