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	<title>Comments on: Working Overtime</title>
	<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/</link>
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		<title>By: reyes</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36276</link>
		<dc:creator>reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36276</guid>
		<description>MW: Sure you do. I don’t think a sweep in New York will determine whether or not the Jays are sellers at the deadline - it’s a shame that they never really have been, because it’s cost them. Rolen has another year left on his contract and if the Jays are sellers, he’ll be dangled. So will Overbay.

Management should have had the courage to be sellers at least a couple of times over the past five years.  You say the Jays have been 'winners' and that is what Ricciardi said at the winter meeting.  But playing above .500 and winning are two different things in baseball.  We have been hurt badly by management's refusal to trade for rebuilding prospects while signing underachieving free agents.  I don't think I would have seen it as throwing in the towel if, say in 2007, Ricciardi had traded for prospects rather than standing pat. But even if I had yelled about it for weeks, it would have been the right thing to do and he should have had the courage to do it.  If this is to be the lost year we were told about in the winter, then let it be truly lost.  throw in the towel now and trade for something we could use later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: Sure you do. I don’t think a sweep in New York will determine whether or not the Jays are sellers at the deadline - it’s a shame that they never really have been, because it’s cost them. Rolen has another year left on his contract and if the Jays are sellers, he’ll be dangled. So will Overbay.</p>
<p>Management should have had the courage to be sellers at least a couple of times over the past five years.  You say the Jays have been &#8216;winners&#8217; and that is what Ricciardi said at the winter meeting.  But playing above .500 and winning are two different things in baseball.  We have been hurt badly by management&#8217;s refusal to trade for rebuilding prospects while signing underachieving free agents.  I don&#8217;t think I would have seen it as throwing in the towel if, say in 2007, Ricciardi had traded for prospects rather than standing pat. But even if I had yelled about it for weeks, it would have been the right thing to do and he should have had the courage to do it.  If this is to be the lost year we were told about in the winter, then let it be truly lost.  throw in the towel now and trade for something we could use later.</p>
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		<title>By: sowsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36267</link>
		<dc:creator>sowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36267</guid>
		<description>Mike

i just want to get your thoughts on getting back carlos delgado and when they were on that nine game losing streak on the road i notisted that they were more comfterbal at home in their winning enviorment.

Mitch sowsky.
peace

MW:  Carlos Delgado is recovering from surgery on his hip, so I'm not sure how great an add he'd be right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike</p>
<p>i just want to get your thoughts on getting back carlos delgado and when they were on that nine game losing streak on the road i notisted that they were more comfterbal at home in their winning enviorment.</p>
<p>Mitch sowsky.<br />
peace</p>
<p>MW:  Carlos Delgado is recovering from surgery on his hip, so I&#8217;m not sure how great an add he&#8217;d be right now.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36238</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36238</guid>
		<description>Hey Mike

Enough with the constant requests to bring in Pedro Martinez.  Pedro is done.  Let the young kids get their innings.

No point in bringing in Nick Johnson either if it is going to cost you some valuable kids.  The time to add was months ago when the team got off to the great start.  JP missed the opportunity.  With the ridiculous amount of injuries the pitching staff has sustained, the Jays would be better off to just ride out the season and reload for 2010.  Lets hope JP has the nerve to make a couple key moves to improve the club for 2010.

MW:  We shall see.  The major failing of Ricciardi's tenure, I think, has been his inability to make the trade deadline deal for important future pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike</p>
<p>Enough with the constant requests to bring in Pedro Martinez.  Pedro is done.  Let the young kids get their innings.</p>
<p>No point in bringing in Nick Johnson either if it is going to cost you some valuable kids.  The time to add was months ago when the team got off to the great start.  JP missed the opportunity.  With the ridiculous amount of injuries the pitching staff has sustained, the Jays would be better off to just ride out the season and reload for 2010.  Lets hope JP has the nerve to make a couple key moves to improve the club for 2010.</p>
<p>MW:  We shall see.  The major failing of Ricciardi&#8217;s tenure, I think, has been his inability to make the trade deadline deal for important future pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: Shakeel</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36237</link>
		<dc:creator>Shakeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36237</guid>
		<description>I understand that Hill has had an amazing season in the 2 hole. However, that spot seems most suitable for Overbay as he is not an aggressive hitter, but rather a hitter who will take pitches and draw walks unless he finds a pitch up in the zone (Which sometimes he might even pass on). The Jays line up will start off with two of the best at taking pitches and high OBP. This can be followed by Hill, Lind and Rolen, players that have consistently driven in runs for the Jays this year. I think Hill would have had more RBIs this year if he was hitting in the 3-5 hole than hitting 2nd. Maybe some of his solo and 2 run homers could have been 3 run homers.

MW:  It would depend on who is hitting second, but probably.  Hill doesn't get on enough to hit third, for me anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that Hill has had an amazing season in the 2 hole. However, that spot seems most suitable for Overbay as he is not an aggressive hitter, but rather a hitter who will take pitches and draw walks unless he finds a pitch up in the zone (Which sometimes he might even pass on). The Jays line up will start off with two of the best at taking pitches and high OBP. This can be followed by Hill, Lind and Rolen, players that have consistently driven in runs for the Jays this year. I think Hill would have had more RBIs this year if he was hitting in the 3-5 hole than hitting 2nd. Maybe some of his solo and 2 run homers could have been 3 run homers.</p>
<p>MW:  It would depend on who is hitting second, but probably.  Hill doesn&#8217;t get on enough to hit third, for me anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Shakeel</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36235</link>
		<dc:creator>Shakeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36235</guid>
		<description>Hey Mike, I just want to follow up with Jays acquiring a Berkman/Gonzalez. What do you think the Astros/Padres will be asking for and what should the Jays be willing to give? If the Jays don't make such a trade, they must sign Nick Johnson to play 1B.

Now if they Jays dangle Rolen at the trade deadline and is taken by another team, Will the Jays end up signing an Adrian Beltre?

Bottom line, Jays need production i.e a solid 4, 5 and 6 hitters.

MW:  The Astros and Padres will both ask for the moon.  They'd start with Cecil and Snider and then go from there.  Nick Johnson will be available in the off-season, we'll see if the Jays are interested, since they do have Lyle Overbay under contract.  I should hope they don't sign Beltre.  I mean, the defense is terrific, but people are giving Vernon Wells a hard time for his offense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, I just want to follow up with Jays acquiring a Berkman/Gonzalez. What do you think the Astros/Padres will be asking for and what should the Jays be willing to give? If the Jays don&#8217;t make such a trade, they must sign Nick Johnson to play 1B.</p>
<p>Now if they Jays dangle Rolen at the trade deadline and is taken by another team, Will the Jays end up signing an Adrian Beltre?</p>
<p>Bottom line, Jays need production i.e a solid 4, 5 and 6 hitters.</p>
<p>MW:  The Astros and Padres will both ask for the moon.  They&#8217;d start with Cecil and Snider and then go from there.  Nick Johnson will be available in the off-season, we&#8217;ll see if the Jays are interested, since they do have Lyle Overbay under contract.  I should hope they don&#8217;t sign Beltre.  I mean, the defense is terrific, but people are giving Vernon Wells a hard time for his offense?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Jones</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36202</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36202</guid>
		<description>Bob from Burlington, which 12 teams haven't "won a pennant?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob from Burlington, which 12 teams haven&#8217;t &#8220;won a pennant?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36201</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36201</guid>
		<description>Ok Ok. Is it time to bring in Pedro Martinez?. At least it would give us a seasoned pitcher, and not some poor kid trying to be a Cy YOung winner, and impress. 

Speaking of young pitchers, does it not make sense to limit the innings pitched? So as to give everyone an equal chance of wearing out body parts. YOu know  2 innings a piece for those not a starter and maybe only 5 or 6 for a starter. We need a new recipe, we are clearly destroying out pitchers.

MW:  Two innings apiece for reliever and only five or six for starters?  I don't think that's the best way to do things.  The Jays follow basically the same recipe that everyone else does.  No, it's not time to bring in Pedro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Ok. Is it time to bring in Pedro Martinez?. At least it would give us a seasoned pitcher, and not some poor kid trying to be a Cy YOung winner, and impress. </p>
<p>Speaking of young pitchers, does it not make sense to limit the innings pitched? So as to give everyone an equal chance of wearing out body parts. YOu know  2 innings a piece for those not a starter and maybe only 5 or 6 for a starter. We need a new recipe, we are clearly destroying out pitchers.</p>
<p>MW:  Two innings apiece for reliever and only five or six for starters?  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the best way to do things.  The Jays follow basically the same recipe that everyone else does.  No, it&#8217;s not time to bring in Pedro.</p>
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		<title>By: General Zod</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36200</link>
		<dc:creator>General Zod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36200</guid>
		<description>Mike, regarding delucci, it HAS only been three games but there are certain tell tale signs about watching his at bats that quickly tell the tale that he is done. (and has been done actually for a while)

the biggest sign is that he is late on fastballs on fastball counts.  once you cannot get around on the old number 1, even when you are looking for hit...there is no refuge.  now it may just be a little streak he is in where the balls are getting on him but he was doing this in cleveland as well. didnt see him much last yeat but i would guess that was a problem then as well. 

the team has nothing to lose than bringing back snider up once he shakes off the rust.  it makes more sense to have a future piece of the puzzle hacking away than it does a has been.

MW:  They definitely should bring Snider back as soon as he gets back into the swing of things, but Looch was hitting over .300 with Vegas, and was hitting .275 with Cleveland this season.  It's three games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, regarding delucci, it HAS only been three games but there are certain tell tale signs about watching his at bats that quickly tell the tale that he is done. (and has been done actually for a while)</p>
<p>the biggest sign is that he is late on fastballs on fastball counts.  once you cannot get around on the old number 1, even when you are looking for hit&#8230;there is no refuge.  now it may just be a little streak he is in where the balls are getting on him but he was doing this in cleveland as well. didnt see him much last yeat but i would guess that was a problem then as well. </p>
<p>the team has nothing to lose than bringing back snider up once he shakes off the rust.  it makes more sense to have a future piece of the puzzle hacking away than it does a has been.</p>
<p>MW:  They definitely should bring Snider back as soon as he gets back into the swing of things, but Looch was hitting over .300 with Vegas, and was hitting .275 with Cleveland this season.  It&#8217;s three games.</p>
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		<title>By: dave_12</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36199</link>
		<dc:creator>dave_12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36199</guid>
		<description>MW: So the Jays should have a top-5 picks 10 years in a row like Tampa Bay did?

Yes, but I would settle for top 8 picks for 5 years in a row or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: So the Jays should have a top-5 picks 10 years in a row like Tampa Bay did?</p>
<p>Yes, but I would settle for top 8 picks for 5 years in a row or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36196</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2009/07/04/working-overtime/#comment-36196</guid>
		<description>Hi Mike

How long do you think the Jays will wait before releasing Delucci?  Would they consider bringing up Ruiz and releasing Delucci before Snyder is ready?

thanks,

David

MW:  I don't know, but I'd like to see Ruiz get a shot.  It's only been three games, though, people really need to calm down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike</p>
<p>How long do you think the Jays will wait before releasing Delucci?  Would they consider bringing up Ruiz and releasing Delucci before Snyder is ready?</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>MW:  I don&#8217;t know, but I&#8217;d like to see Ruiz get a shot.  It&#8217;s only been three games, though, people really need to calm down.</p>
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