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		<title>By: Jay B</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/08/09/a-pathetic-exhibition/#comment-13292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW: I think you’re really stretching here. I would say that conservatively, about 95% of broadcasters don’t know that Braun and Youkilis are Jewish.

are you seriously saying that 95% of broadcasters don&#039;t know that the guy they&#039;ve popularly dubbed &#039;the Hebrew Hammer&#039;, is Jewish?

MW: I haven&#039;t heard many sportscasters use that nickname.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW: I think you’re really stretching here. I would say that conservatively, about 95% of broadcasters don’t know that Braun and Youkilis are Jewish.</p>
<p>are you seriously saying that 95% of broadcasters don&#8217;t know that the guy they&#8217;ve popularly dubbed &#8216;the Hebrew Hammer&#8217;, is Jewish?</p>
<p>MW: I haven&#8217;t heard many sportscasters use that nickname.</p>
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		<title>By: Beburg aka The 88mph man</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/08/09/a-pathetic-exhibition/#comment-13202</link>
		<dc:creator>Beburg aka The 88mph man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51. The nickname &quot;The Hebrew Hammer&quot;, might give them a hint about Braun but they aren&#039;t smart enough to know if Hebrew is a language or a hammer making company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51. The nickname &#8220;The Hebrew Hammer&#8221;, might give them a hint about Braun but they aren&#8217;t smart enough to know if Hebrew is a language or a hammer making company.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/08/09/a-pathetic-exhibition/#comment-13191</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sammy,

I asked Mike a question, not you, by the way.

And I didn&#039;t even mention Arencibia.  I don&#039;t know where you got that.  Arencibia is 22, and I can understand being more careful with him.

I was talking about Dopirak.  I mean what&#039;s wrong with giving him a look IF he does well in August in AA (who knows he might stink it up down there).  Seriously, what&#039;s it gonna hurt.  Would you rather see Mench called up?  Dopirak is 26, and as Mike mentioned a minor league free agent next year.  Why not give him a look for a month?  Of course, if JP decides not to, I&#039;m sure he has a good reason for it, and I&#039;ll respect that, cause he knows a heck of a lot more about this stuff than we do.

I probably didn&#039;t explain myself well enough when I said that power is power.  What I meant was that the guy obviously has potential for power.  I doubt you&#039;d see Inglett, Scutaro, Eckstein and similar players hit 27 hr&#039;s in 400 AB down there.  They&#039;re not &quot;power hitters&quot;.  In fact, I doubt many other of the Jays&#039; do that.  I&#039;m also not saying that Dopirak will do that against major league pitching, but where&#039;s the risk in seeing if he does?  It&#039;s not the first year he&#039;s put up those types of numbers in the minors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sammy,</p>
<p>I asked Mike a question, not you, by the way.</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t even mention Arencibia.  I don&#8217;t know where you got that.  Arencibia is 22, and I can understand being more careful with him.</p>
<p>I was talking about Dopirak.  I mean what&#8217;s wrong with giving him a look IF he does well in August in AA (who knows he might stink it up down there).  Seriously, what&#8217;s it gonna hurt.  Would you rather see Mench called up?  Dopirak is 26, and as Mike mentioned a minor league free agent next year.  Why not give him a look for a month?  Of course, if JP decides not to, I&#8217;m sure he has a good reason for it, and I&#8217;ll respect that, cause he knows a heck of a lot more about this stuff than we do.</p>
<p>I probably didn&#8217;t explain myself well enough when I said that power is power.  What I meant was that the guy obviously has potential for power.  I doubt you&#8217;d see Inglett, Scutaro, Eckstein and similar players hit 27 hr&#8217;s in 400 AB down there.  They&#8217;re not &#8220;power hitters&#8221;.  In fact, I doubt many other of the Jays&#8217; do that.  I&#8217;m also not saying that Dopirak will do that against major league pitching, but where&#8217;s the risk in seeing if he does?  It&#8217;s not the first year he&#8217;s put up those types of numbers in the minors.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/08/09/a-pathetic-exhibition/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s the likelinesshoodbility of Cito or the other new coaches teaching Johnny Mac a few things and then he becomes a 270-280 guy??

MW:  If Mac were 25, maybe.  But he&#039;ll be 34 next month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the likelinesshoodbility of Cito or the other new coaches teaching Johnny Mac a few things and then he becomes a 270-280 guy??</p>
<p>MW:  If Mac were 25, maybe.  But he&#8217;ll be 34 next month.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/08/09/a-pathetic-exhibition/#comment-13116</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike you have said on many occasions that you think the Jays are close, 

How are they close if

1. They  cannot produce or aquire a good hitting, healty reliable 3rd baseman or shortstop.

2. They have no power 

3. The leadoff spot is in question

4. The DH position is in Question.

5. Who is going to be the number 2. Starting pitcher next year.

6. Who wil be the bonifide catcher next year. 

7. Jays under current upper management has not finised greater than 9.0 games back  of the wild card and has once finished ten games over five hundred. 

All these factors remain seven years later in the hands Of JP Richardi who claimed he could turn this team into a contender through the draft. Seven years later 9.0 games back of the wild card 12 back of the division with 100million dollars in payroll.

You saying that Jays are close is simply not true.

MW:  And yet, they&#039;re pretty close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike you have said on many occasions that you think the Jays are close, </p>
<p>How are they close if</p>
<p>1. They  cannot produce or aquire a good hitting, healty reliable 3rd baseman or shortstop.</p>
<p>2. They have no power </p>
<p>3. The leadoff spot is in question</p>
<p>4. The DH position is in Question.</p>
<p>5. Who is going to be the number 2. Starting pitcher next year.</p>
<p>6. Who wil be the bonifide catcher next year. </p>
<p>7. Jays under current upper management has not finised greater than 9.0 games back  of the wild card and has once finished ten games over five hundred. </p>
<p>All these factors remain seven years later in the hands Of JP Richardi who claimed he could turn this team into a contender through the draft. Seven years later 9.0 games back of the wild card 12 back of the division with 100million dollars in payroll.</p>
<p>You saying that Jays are close is simply not true.</p>
<p>MW:  And yet, they&#8217;re pretty close.</p>
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		<title>By: FLIPPER</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/08/09/a-pathetic-exhibition/#comment-13093</link>
		<dc:creator>FLIPPER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike .. I like what J.P. is doing but one of the deals that really bugs me is the money they paid Frank to be the D.H. for the JAYS .. It was not the signing ,it was the money .. From my thinking , nobody else was willing to pay him huge bucks so why do you think J.P. decided to pay twice the sticker price of a used car.. I&#039;m sure we could of got him for 7 million for a 1 year deal being that his base salary was 500 K and with his incentives he made 2.9 mil.  Do you know if there was any interest in Frank at that time as far as the stupid money J.P. offered? I am not a typical JAY fan .. If a lot of JAY fans  put them selves in a G.M. situation with the money aspect and budgets they might think twice what they are trying to acomplish , so this deal with Frank  goes against the grain of what J.P.has done with his other deals.. Mike, you and I tend to agree that for the most part J.PS. deals really are not bad ,especially on paper which is all you can ask of a G.M. but can you clarify why o why would he open the vault that much when I dont think there was anybody even kickin&#039; the tires .. Unless you heard that there was tons of interest in Frank and there was some kind of bidding war for him I&#039;ll accept JP.S decision but I sincerely doubt it..  Again  I liked the signing at the time but not the dough..  Whats your take on this Mike..

MW:  My take is that the money doesn&#039;t matter, that signing Thomas to the contract to which he was signed didn&#039;t mean the Jays missed out on anyone that off-season.  I don&#039;t know if there was other interest in Thomas, but I do know that there&#039;s often something to be said for swooping in ahead of all the other suitors and blowing a player away with an offer he would have a very hard time refusing.  The problem is, that tends only to be a good thing if it works out, and this one didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike .. I like what J.P. is doing but one of the deals that really bugs me is the money they paid Frank to be the D.H. for the JAYS .. It was not the signing ,it was the money .. From my thinking , nobody else was willing to pay him huge bucks so why do you think J.P. decided to pay twice the sticker price of a used car.. I&#8217;m sure we could of got him for 7 million for a 1 year deal being that his base salary was 500 K and with his incentives he made 2.9 mil.  Do you know if there was any interest in Frank at that time as far as the stupid money J.P. offered? I am not a typical JAY fan .. If a lot of JAY fans  put them selves in a G.M. situation with the money aspect and budgets they might think twice what they are trying to acomplish , so this deal with Frank  goes against the grain of what J.P.has done with his other deals.. Mike, you and I tend to agree that for the most part J.PS. deals really are not bad ,especially on paper which is all you can ask of a G.M. but can you clarify why o why would he open the vault that much when I dont think there was anybody even kickin&#8217; the tires .. Unless you heard that there was tons of interest in Frank and there was some kind of bidding war for him I&#8217;ll accept JP.S decision but I sincerely doubt it..  Again  I liked the signing at the time but not the dough..  Whats your take on this Mike..</p>
<p>MW:  My take is that the money doesn&#8217;t matter, that signing Thomas to the contract to which he was signed didn&#8217;t mean the Jays missed out on anyone that off-season.  I don&#8217;t know if there was other interest in Thomas, but I do know that there&#8217;s often something to be said for swooping in ahead of all the other suitors and blowing a player away with an offer he would have a very hard time refusing.  The problem is, that tends only to be a good thing if it works out, and this one didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: gump</title>
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		<dc:creator>gump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love it if the Jays signed Manny Ramirez in the off season..However, if the Jays felt that Barry Bonds would have been a distraction to the team then why sign Ramirez?..That whole Manny being Manny thing wouldn&#039;t fly in Toronto..I can&#039;t see a guy like Halladay shrugging his shoulders and cracking up when he sees Manny rolling on a few balls in the outfield..Now I realize Bonds is on another level because he has some serious legal issues but Bonds wasn&#039;t rolling on balls in the field and most of the players he played with said he was a good teammate..Bonds has issues with the media more then anything else..Is it Riccardi that doesn&#039;t want to sign Bonds or someone higher then him?..Anyway, Is Ramirez worth the trouble any more then Bonds?..

MW:  Wow, a legit question from you.  I&#039;m impressed.  I&#039;m confident that the Jays decision not to pursue Bonds had nothing to do with the team&#039;s baseball operations people.  Manny would be acceptable to pursue because he&#039;s not Barry Bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love it if the Jays signed Manny Ramirez in the off season..However, if the Jays felt that Barry Bonds would have been a distraction to the team then why sign Ramirez?..That whole Manny being Manny thing wouldn&#8217;t fly in Toronto..I can&#8217;t see a guy like Halladay shrugging his shoulders and cracking up when he sees Manny rolling on a few balls in the outfield..Now I realize Bonds is on another level because he has some serious legal issues but Bonds wasn&#8217;t rolling on balls in the field and most of the players he played with said he was a good teammate..Bonds has issues with the media more then anything else..Is it Riccardi that doesn&#8217;t want to sign Bonds or someone higher then him?..Anyway, Is Ramirez worth the trouble any more then Bonds?..</p>
<p>MW:  Wow, a legit question from you.  I&#8217;m impressed.  I&#8217;m confident that the Jays decision not to pursue Bonds had nothing to do with the team&#8217;s baseball operations people.  Manny would be acceptable to pursue because he&#8217;s not Barry Bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS I see that T-Bay is still killing the competition.  I think you might be wrong about them.  They&#039;re heading for the post-season and I couldn&#039;t be happier for them.  If we can&#039;t win--and God knows, we can&#039;t win--I hope they go all the way.  They deserve it.

I wish I could say that the Jays deserved something, anything, other than pink slips all round.  What a rotten team we have this year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I see that T-Bay is still killing the competition.  I think you might be wrong about them.  They&#8217;re heading for the post-season and I couldn&#8217;t be happier for them.  If we can&#8217;t win&#8211;and God knows, we can&#8217;t win&#8211;I hope they go all the way.  They deserve it.</p>
<p>I wish I could say that the Jays deserved something, anything, other than pink slips all round.  What a rotten team we have this year!</p>
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		<title>By: sammy jalazai</title>
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		<dc:creator>sammy jalazai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power is power?  ummm..no...

as far as &quot;facing big league pitching in september&quot; 

one of the problems with september call ups is they are often facing other september callups.  its not like you are facing a true big leaguer every time up.  the good news of the jays is they do play many games in september against teams that will be in the hunt. 

by the way...rene, arencibia just got to AA a few weeks ago...chillllllll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power is power?  ummm..no&#8230;</p>
<p>as far as &#8220;facing big league pitching in september&#8221; </p>
<p>one of the problems with september call ups is they are often facing other september callups.  its not like you are facing a true big leaguer every time up.  the good news of the jays is they do play many games in september against teams that will be in the hunt. </p>
<p>by the way&#8230;rene, arencibia just got to AA a few weeks ago&#8230;chillllllll</p>
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		<title>By: reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sal Fasano&#039;s idea that Rios carries his bad at-bats into the field with him deserves some consideration.  I&#039;d believe it if it wasn&#039;t for the times I&#039;ve seen Rios daydreaming on 1st base or 3rd, and one presumes that he got on base because he hit the ball.

MW:  That doesn&#039;t mean he still can&#039;t be thinking about his at-bats when he&#039;s on base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sal Fasano&#8217;s idea that Rios carries his bad at-bats into the field with him deserves some consideration.  I&#8217;d believe it if it wasn&#8217;t for the times I&#8217;ve seen Rios daydreaming on 1st base or 3rd, and one presumes that he got on base because he hit the ball.</p>
<p>MW:  That doesn&#8217;t mean he still can&#8217;t be thinking about his at-bats when he&#8217;s on base.</p>
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