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	<title>Comments on: Up From The Depths</title>
	<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/</link>
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		<title>By: Rob M</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11571</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11571</guid>
		<description>It's time that the unwritten rules are left behind.  Five runs was not a big lead on Saturday, evidenced by the mini-comeback in the bottom of the ninth.

It's good "clean", "hustling" baseball to take someone out at second base to break up a double play or run over a catcher in the name of scoring a run but bunting for a hit with a five run lead in the sixth inning is somehow "dirty"??  

Maybe this guy isn't the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time that the unwritten rules are left behind.  Five runs was not a big lead on Saturday, evidenced by the mini-comeback in the bottom of the ninth.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good &#8220;clean&#8221;, &#8220;hustling&#8221; baseball to take someone out at second base to break up a double play or run over a catcher in the name of scoring a run but bunting for a hit with a five run lead in the sixth inning is somehow &#8220;dirty&#8221;??  </p>
<p>Maybe this guy isn&#8217;t the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: GregJP</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11566</link>
		<dc:creator>GregJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11566</guid>
		<description>"MW: No problem. Rarely will you hear me refer to only a player’s batting average (unless the other stuff isn’t easily available and I don’t have time to look it up) because that stat really doesn’t give a good picture of what the player is actually doing at the plate."

Then why do the radio broadcasters (who are paid to discuss baseball) never or rarely mention OBP, SLG, or OPS?

MW:  A lot of the older broadcasters aren't yet comfortable with those stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MW: No problem. Rarely will you hear me refer to only a player’s batting average (unless the other stuff isn’t easily available and I don’t have time to look it up) because that stat really doesn’t give a good picture of what the player is actually doing at the plate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why do the radio broadcasters (who are paid to discuss baseball) never or rarely mention OBP, SLG, or OPS?</p>
<p>MW:  A lot of the older broadcasters aren&#8217;t yet comfortable with those stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Anothony</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11560</link>
		<dc:creator>Anothony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11560</guid>
		<description>hey Mike thought you and other bloggers would be interested in these.

David Cooper, 1B, Low-A Lansing (Blue Jays)
With Travis Snider ranking as the entire organization's only prospect who projects as a middle-of-the-order force, to compensate Toronto focused on advanced college bats with their first-round pick this June, and selected Cooper with the 17th overall pick. A first baseman whose only tool is the bat, Cooper has had zero issues in translating his skills to the pros, and after batting .341/.411/.553 in 21 New York-Penn League games, he's now tearing apart the Midwest League. The former Cal star slugged his first two full-season home runs over the weekend, and is batting .386/.438/.614 in 11 games overall for the Lugnuts, looking very much like the kind of hitter who could rocket through the minors. Seeing him in Double-A at some point in 2009 could be a reasonable expectation.

Zach Cozart, SS, Low-A Dayton (Reds)
A second-round pick last year, Cozart entered pro ball as an outstanding defensive shortstop with little offense to offer. The first part of that equation hasn't changed, but the offensive aspect of his game has taken a shocking turn. After hitting just two home runs over 184 at-bats in last year's pro debut, Cozart just slugged his 11th and 12th home runs of the season over the weekend, and is now hitting a shocking .269/.330/.470 in 70 games for the Dragons. The on-base skills are still lacking, but the power development is downright shocking, and all he needed was some kind of offensive upside to project as an everyday player in the big leagues, because the defense really is that good.

and its free week at baseball prospectus if anyone is interested.

MW:  Why would we be interested in a scouting report on Cincy's A-ball shortstop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Mike thought you and other bloggers would be interested in these.</p>
<p>David Cooper, 1B, Low-A Lansing (Blue Jays)<br />
With Travis Snider ranking as the entire organization&#8217;s only prospect who projects as a middle-of-the-order force, to compensate Toronto focused on advanced college bats with their first-round pick this June, and selected Cooper with the 17th overall pick. A first baseman whose only tool is the bat, Cooper has had zero issues in translating his skills to the pros, and after batting .341/.411/.553 in 21 New York-Penn League games, he&#8217;s now tearing apart the Midwest League. The former Cal star slugged his first two full-season home runs over the weekend, and is batting .386/.438/.614 in 11 games overall for the Lugnuts, looking very much like the kind of hitter who could rocket through the minors. Seeing him in Double-A at some point in 2009 could be a reasonable expectation.</p>
<p>Zach Cozart, SS, Low-A Dayton (Reds)<br />
A second-round pick last year, Cozart entered pro ball as an outstanding defensive shortstop with little offense to offer. The first part of that equation hasn&#8217;t changed, but the offensive aspect of his game has taken a shocking turn. After hitting just two home runs over 184 at-bats in last year&#8217;s pro debut, Cozart just slugged his 11th and 12th home runs of the season over the weekend, and is now hitting a shocking .269/.330/.470 in 70 games for the Dragons. The on-base skills are still lacking, but the power development is downright shocking, and all he needed was some kind of offensive upside to project as an everyday player in the big leagues, because the defense really is that good.</p>
<p>and its free week at baseball prospectus if anyone is interested.</p>
<p>MW:  Why would we be interested in a scouting report on Cincy&#8217;s A-ball shortstop?</p>
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		<title>By: rocco</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11559</link>
		<dc:creator>rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11559</guid>
		<description>"About that, I know I said yesterday that I didn’t think that League hit Navarro intentionally and made a crack about his lack of control, but it turns out that he did."


MW:  I deleted the rest of your comment instead of simply deleting the whole thing, because honestly, they don't pay me enough to deal with utter crap like that.  Now I'm going to go steam-clean your excrement off my living-room rug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;About that, I know I said yesterday that I didn’t think that League hit Navarro intentionally and made a crack about his lack of control, but it turns out that he did.&#8221;</p>
<p>MW:  I deleted the rest of your comment instead of simply deleting the whole thing, because honestly, they don&#8217;t pay me enough to deal with utter crap like that.  Now I&#8217;m going to go steam-clean your excrement off my living-room rug.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11558</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11558</guid>
		<description>Trade Travis Snider now! He was in a homerun derby for crying out loud. He may never be the same again.

All kidding aside how likely is it that he gets called up come September ? There's alot of hype about him, i'd like to see his potential. Finally, why has Gaston not yet moved Adam Lind up in the lineup ?

MW:  I think we may see Snider in September, and we'll probably see Lind move up in the line-up by August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade Travis Snider now! He was in a homerun derby for crying out loud. He may never be the same again.</p>
<p>All kidding aside how likely is it that he gets called up come September ? There&#8217;s alot of hype about him, i&#8217;d like to see his potential. Finally, why has Gaston not yet moved Adam Lind up in the lineup ?</p>
<p>MW:  I think we may see Snider in September, and we&#8217;ll probably see Lind move up in the line-up by August.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11557</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11557</guid>
		<description>Mike, do you have any conructive critism for the Jays GM?

MW:  Sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, do you have any conructive critism for the Jays GM?</p>
<p>MW:  Sure.</p>
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		<title>By: rocco</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11556</link>
		<dc:creator>rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11556</guid>
		<description>MW "2 years ago this was a great group of hitters and that's something that can't be debated"

HUH? 2006 the jays were 7th in runs scored in the AL. that is the only offensive stat that matters. avg, obp etc dont matter because the GOAL is to score runs. 7th in runs scored is NOT GREAT. the problem with you mike is you keep repeating things that are simply not true because it makes you feel good to keep saying it, but just because you keep repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. your philosophy is "stay the course" where have we heard that before???????

MW:  Wow - first ever comparison of me to George H. W. Bush.  Congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW &#8220;2 years ago this was a great group of hitters and that&#8217;s something that can&#8217;t be debated&#8221;</p>
<p>HUH? 2006 the jays were 7th in runs scored in the AL. that is the only offensive stat that matters. avg, obp etc dont matter because the GOAL is to score runs. 7th in runs scored is NOT GREAT. the problem with you mike is you keep repeating things that are simply not true because it makes you feel good to keep saying it, but just because you keep repeating it over and over and over again doesn&#8217;t make it true. your philosophy is &#8220;stay the course&#8221; where have we heard that before???????</p>
<p>MW:  Wow - first ever comparison of me to George H. W. Bush.  Congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokopec</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11555</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokopec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11555</guid>
		<description>Cito sees a 5 run margin as large. Any person aware that this exceeds the average number of runs the Jays score a game this season sees it as large. 

The only issue that I can see is, why won't Cito drink the Wilner Kool-Aid?

MW:  Did you notice that the Jays scored four runs in the 9th inning of that game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cito sees a 5 run margin as large. Any person aware that this exceeds the average number of runs the Jays score a game this season sees it as large. </p>
<p>The only issue that I can see is, why won&#8217;t Cito drink the Wilner Kool-Aid?</p>
<p>MW:  Did you notice that the Jays scored four runs in the 9th inning of that game?</p>
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		<title>By: Vito From Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11554</link>
		<dc:creator>Vito From Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11554</guid>
		<description>Horrifying is right, Mike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horrifying is right, Mike!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11553</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/21/up-from-the-depths/#comment-11553</guid>
		<description>Hey Mike,

  My friend and I argue quite often over who the best player in baseball is today.  I say A-Rod, he says Pujols.  

Who do you think is.  Is it one of these two?  And if not, who is?  And if not, could you please pick who you think is better of these two, just so we can stop arguing.

Thanks Mike!

MW:  I think it's Rodriguez, but you could certainly make the argument for Pujols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike,</p>
<p>  My friend and I argue quite often over who the best player in baseball is today.  I say A-Rod, he says Pujols.  </p>
<p>Who do you think is.  Is it one of these two?  And if not, who is?  And if not, could you please pick who you think is better of these two, just so we can stop arguing.</p>
<p>Thanks Mike!</p>
<p>MW:  I think it&#8217;s Rodriguez, but you could certainly make the argument for Pujols.</p>
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