Comments on: Less-Than-Happy Canada Day http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:26:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: josh http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10215 josh Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:31:30 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10215 sorry the oakland atheltics MW: Really? You want to correct your correct spelling to a mistake? sorry the oakland atheltics

MW: Really? You want to correct your correct spelling to a mistake?

]]> By: josh http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10214 josh Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:31:03 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10214 i called after the four game stretch and pointed out that other than the two homeruns he hit during that stretch he had not been clutch you said well thomas is a hall of famer, i said well as a blue jays he doesnt hit in big situations only when were alot of runs usually or at the end of the year when were way outta the playoffs, you said you had to check the numbers i said check them you said there was no time ( i was the last caller of the night) do u remember this call? also who is better than oakland athletics, or the team with wilner at short and neil diamond at second MW: I don't remember the call, but it sounds like it could have happened. Thomas did most of his damage over the last 2/3 of the season last year. i called after the four game stretch and pointed out that other than the two homeruns he hit during that stretch he had not been clutch
you said well thomas is a hall of famer,
i said well as a blue jays he doesnt hit in big situations only when were alot of runs usually or at the end of the year when were way outta the playoffs, you said you had to check the numbers
i said check them
you said there was no time ( i was the last caller of the night)
do u remember this call?
also who is better than oakland athletics, or the team with wilner at short and neil diamond at second

MW: I don’t remember the call, but it sounds like it could have happened. Thomas did most of his damage over the last 2/3 of the season last year.

]]> By: jason http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10171 jason Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:17:38 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10171 Why pay someone to not fulfill their contract? By making him(thomas) sit he either agrees to split DH with Stairs or quits. It seems when players dictate to management how things will go is when management loses control over the team. To me this was as bad a deal as the Zito one, except Zito is still a giant and has a chance to redeem himself. Basically we paid Thomas 20 mil for one season. MW: You should look again at the Zito deal. Why pay someone to not fulfill their contract? By making him(thomas) sit he either agrees to split DH with Stairs or quits. It seems when players dictate to management how things will go is when management loses control over the team. To me this was as bad a deal as the Zito one, except Zito is still a giant and has a chance to redeem himself. Basically we paid Thomas 20 mil for one season.

MW: You should look again at the Zito deal.

]]> By: josh http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10157 josh Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:27:21 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10157 and other then mentioning richie sexson i agree with comment 84 he made strong points and other then mentioning richie sexson i agree with comment 84
he made strong points

]]> By: josh http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10128 josh Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:16:12 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10128 mike i called the show in april and we debated whether thomas had been a timely hitter for the jays (you refuting my point that he had not been) now i see on yesterdays blog you responded to someone saying that thomas hadn't done anything offensively at all this year is this yet another example of you selling out a player after he's on the team but not ripping him when he is on the team i'm not spewing hate, i enjoy your show and listen nitely. (even this week, in the early mornings) MW: Glad to hear it. Yes, it's another case of me supporting a player unconditionally when he's on the Jays and then ripping him the second he's out the door. It's what I do. Sorry - this is really getting to me. Outside a four-game stretch in the season's second week, Thomas hadn't done a thing offensively for the Jays. Did you call the show inside that four-game stretch, or just before (too early to write off a season) or just after (hadn't had long enough to settle into the "not done anything" mode)? mike i called the show in april and we debated whether thomas had been a timely hitter for the jays (you refuting my point that he had not been)
now i see on yesterdays blog you responded to someone saying that thomas hadn’t done anything offensively at all this year
is this yet another example of you selling out a player after he’s on the team but not ripping him when he is on the team
i’m not spewing hate, i enjoy your show and listen nitely.
(even this week, in the early mornings)

MW: Glad to hear it. Yes, it’s another case of me supporting a player unconditionally when he’s on the Jays and then ripping him the second he’s out the door. It’s what I do. Sorry - this is really getting to me. Outside a four-game stretch in the season’s second week, Thomas hadn’t done a thing offensively for the Jays. Did you call the show inside that four-game stretch, or just before (too early to write off a season) or just after (hadn’t had long enough to settle into the “not done anything” mode)?

]]> By: jason http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10080 jason Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:48:25 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10080 JP missing jays talk makes me wonder if something is up. Or maybe he's tired of facing the critics. Losing a series to Seattle is not a good sign for a team trying to look like a contender. I wonder how short a rope JP is on, does he have until the allstar break? I am not worried about JP's job loss the guy will be hired by someone else maybe not as a GM. I actually wouldn't mind him as a assistant GM here, we just need a change. I just think we need a fresh look at this teams make up. Whats eating me up this year is the Frank Thomas thing. This guy signs a huge contract and you let him walk away from it. I would of made him ride the pine, I think that sent a bad message to rest of the team. I am suprised Eckstien hasn't pulled the same thing Thomas did. MW: Eckstein and Thomas are very different people. What would have been the point of the Jays making Thomas take up a spot on the bench all season? JP missing jays talk makes me wonder if something is up. Or maybe he’s tired of facing the critics. Losing a series to Seattle is not a good sign for a team trying to look like a contender. I wonder how short a rope JP is on, does he have until the allstar break? I am not worried about JP’s job loss the guy will be hired by someone else maybe not as a GM. I actually wouldn’t mind him as a assistant GM here, we just need a change. I just think we need a fresh look at this teams make up. Whats eating me up this year is the Frank Thomas thing. This guy signs a huge contract and you let him walk away from it. I would of made him ride the pine, I think that sent a bad message to rest of the team. I am suprised Eckstien hasn’t pulled the same thing Thomas did.

MW: Eckstein and Thomas are very different people. What would have been the point of the Jays making Thomas take up a spot on the bench all season?

]]> By: rocco http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10079 rocco Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:36:57 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10079 this is a typical normal year for rios, get used to it for the next 6 years. mike I was wondering when JP gets fired will you get fired too since you are both joined at the hip? have you considered off season surgery? MW: Yeah, I should have asked for that same contract extension that J.P. got. How is this a typical normal year for Rios? He's 11 points below his career average, six points below his career obp and 60 points below his career slugging coming into this season. this is a typical normal year for rios, get used to it for the next 6 years. mike I was wondering when JP gets fired will you get fired too since you are both joined at the hip? have you considered off season surgery?

MW: Yeah, I should have asked for that same contract extension that J.P. got. How is this a typical normal year for Rios? He’s 11 points below his career average, six points below his career obp and 60 points below his career slugging coming into this season.

]]> By: Ryan http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10078 Ryan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:35:21 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10078 Pythagorean expectation? Did you actually pull that tonight? Did you pull that saying that the Jays are the (and I quote) the "unluckiest team in baseball"?????????????? I wish there was a stat like that for my poker nights, I'd be the most unluckiest player ever but would be great if the river hit...and hey, the Leafs....there MUST be a formula for excuses there. Sometimes it's best to trust your eyes no? Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I like you. You’re good, but you're getting too sly. MW: Sly? Hey, call it what you want, but truth is truth. For example, the Blue Jays have scored 354 runs this season and allowed 327. They're 41-45. The Angels have scored fewer runs (353) and allowed more (341) - and yet they're 51-34. According to their run differential, the Jays should be about 46-40. Pythagorean expectation? Did you actually pull that tonight? Did you pull that saying that the Jays are the (and I quote) the “unluckiest team in baseball”?????????????? I wish there was a stat like that for my poker nights, I’d be the most unluckiest player ever but would be great if the river hit…and hey, the Leafs….there MUST be a formula for excuses there. Sometimes it’s best to trust your eyes no?

Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I like you. You’re good, but you’re getting too sly.

MW: Sly? Hey, call it what you want, but truth is truth. For example, the Blue Jays have scored 354 runs this season and allowed 327. They’re 41-45. The Angels have scored fewer runs (353) and allowed more (341) - and yet they’re 51-34. According to their run differential, the Jays should be about 46-40.

]]> By: rocco http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10076 rocco Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:27:19 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10076 mike, I want to show you that the hitters are actually playing normally take a look at rios career. his numbers are actually HIGHER than 2004 and 2005. he had 2 good years 2006 and 2007 but that does not make a career. so 2 bad years and 2 good years and now another bad year so you can't say the 2 good years are the real alex rios. he is hitting 9 points below career avg, 5 points below career obp. only slug is a big drop. so you can't say he is this great hitter. it's not like he is richie sexson who has a proven career. rios could be mediocre the rest of his career. MW: Seriously? Richie Sexson? mike, I want to show you that the hitters are actually playing normally take a look at rios career. his numbers are actually HIGHER than 2004 and 2005. he had 2 good years 2006 and 2007 but that does not make a career. so 2 bad years and 2 good years and now another bad year so you can’t say the 2 good years are the real alex rios. he is hitting 9 points below career avg, 5 points below career obp. only slug is a big drop. so you can’t say he is this great hitter. it’s not like he is richie sexson who has a proven career. rios could be mediocre the rest of his career.

MW: Seriously? Richie Sexson?

]]> By: Christopher Taylor http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10075 Christopher Taylor Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:25:05 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/07/02/less-than-happy-canada-day/#comment-10075 Mike, I know it is a different space/time continuum and all that but: Does the situation with Thomas become untenable if Cito is manager at the time? I have no idea but your comments brought the question to my mind. MW: I have no idea either. Maybe the situation doesn't become untenable because Cito would have been willing to keep running Thomas out there every day even though he wasn't doing a thing offensively. Then again, maybe Cito wouldn't have kept him in the line-up every day. Mike,

I know it is a different space/time continuum and all that but: Does the situation with Thomas become untenable if Cito is manager at the time?

I have no idea but your comments brought the question to my mind.

MW: I have no idea either. Maybe the situation doesn’t become untenable because Cito would have been willing to keep running Thomas out there every day even though he wasn’t doing a thing offensively. Then again, maybe Cito wouldn’t have kept him in the line-up every day.

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