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	<title>Comments on: Finally They Figured It Out, But It Took A Long, Long Time</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Manso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Manso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not going to mention names...

Nice cheap shot, never would known about you or this place had it not been passed along.

Its too bad all you could do is cry to the world about how much of a girl you are in the &quot;old guys&quot; league. I stopped you from making a double play.

Sorry for taking something away from you to write about
what a &quot;great&quot; player you are!

Get a life.  8 straight at-bats with a hit in the &quot;old guys&quot; league is nothing to be tooting you own horn about, don&#039;t you have enough people doing it for you here?  So pathetic that you have big yourself up in a blog?

Honestly, if I thought as much about you as you seem to think of both me and yourself, I would have cried about the idiot on your team that tried to run me down at home plate in a &quot;non-contact&quot; old guys league.  I saved him from getting that throw from the outfield blindsiding him.

Spiking is not my style, ask anyone who&#039;s ever played with me.  If I had a wanted to &quot;come after you&quot;, I would have just run right over you.  You are not exactly a &quot;small&quot; target.

We&#039;ll see you on the diamond again, unless you are too much of sissy to show up the next time we play against you.

MW:  I can&#039;t wait!  &quot;Girl&quot;, &quot;sissy&quot; - the mark of a brilliant debater.  Again - it&#039;s old man baseball, no one is getting a contract out of this.  No one should be out there trying to hurt someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not going to mention names&#8230;</p>
<p>Nice cheap shot, never would known about you or this place had it not been passed along.</p>
<p>Its too bad all you could do is cry to the world about how much of a girl you are in the &#8220;old guys&#8221; league. I stopped you from making a double play.</p>
<p>Sorry for taking something away from you to write about<br />
what a &#8220;great&#8221; player you are!</p>
<p>Get a life.  8 straight at-bats with a hit in the &#8220;old guys&#8221; league is nothing to be tooting you own horn about, don&#8217;t you have enough people doing it for you here?  So pathetic that you have big yourself up in a blog?</p>
<p>Honestly, if I thought as much about you as you seem to think of both me and yourself, I would have cried about the idiot on your team that tried to run me down at home plate in a &#8220;non-contact&#8221; old guys league.  I saved him from getting that throw from the outfield blindsiding him.</p>
<p>Spiking is not my style, ask anyone who&#8217;s ever played with me.  If I had a wanted to &#8220;come after you&#8221;, I would have just run right over you.  You are not exactly a &#8220;small&#8221; target.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see you on the diamond again, unless you are too much of sissy to show up the next time we play against you.</p>
<p>MW:  I can&#8217;t wait!  &#8220;Girl&#8221;, &#8220;sissy&#8221; &#8211; the mark of a brilliant debater.  Again &#8211; it&#8217;s old man baseball, no one is getting a contract out of this.  No one should be out there trying to hurt someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, does Vito mean you are going to be annulled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, does Vito mean you are going to be annulled?</p>
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		<title>By: Vito From Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vito From Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who feels Godfrey is the CHIEF ARCHITECT of this mess has my unbridled support.  Time he hit the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who feels Godfrey is the CHIEF ARCHITECT of this mess has my unbridled support.  Time he hit the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Vito From Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vito From Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I await the day with bated breath when Wells, Rios, Overbay, Godfrey and JP are GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE!  But you of course, Mr Wilner will be IMORTALIZED in the annuls of baseball!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I await the day with bated breath when Wells, Rios, Overbay, Godfrey and JP are GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE!  But you of course, Mr Wilner will be IMORTALIZED in the annuls of baseball!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dismissal of John Gibbons was warrented and so would a JP dissmal. In no professional sport where organizations invest money in their franchises would an owner put up with mutiple losing seasons, especially if the team had a winning tradition
in prior years. 

If a GM comes out as JP did several times and specified the amount of money that will give him a better chance to contend and he gets that money, then the expectations of the fanbase will go through the roof as should the owners and the GM had just better be competitive. If teams like the twins in prior years florida and Tampa, can be competitive  with payrolls 60mill and under why can&#039;t we. 

Jp has ridden the payroll,injuries and division excuse. The payroll excuse is out the window, because Florida and Baltimore and Tampa this year, is a great indication that without a great payroll drafting can really do the Job , only three guys on the jays roster are fully developed draft picks in seven years from the Jp  regime. With regards to the injuries this team had last year, Dan Shulman last week on PTS said he feels that everytime injuries are used as an excuse it lets the rest of players on the roster off the hook, Mcowan says if it wasn&#039;t for the injuries Jays would not have seen the developement of Mcowan, Marcum, Litch. With the division excuse, Florida marlins are in a division with Atlanta and The New York Mets who highly outspends them every year Yet they remain competitive this year and won it in 2003 in that same division with two big spending teams. 

Lastly, there was a caller last night that said, 


JP kind of used Marcum,Mcowan and Litch as a last resort, therefore can he really get all the credit for these guys.

Primarly he tried to aquire

Matt Clement
Gill Mesch

Aquired Tolma Olka inserted him in the starting lineup
Olka was terrible.
Zambrano appeared in only eight starts injury progned
Josh Towers was largly inconsistant, finally released.

Marcum.Mcowan and Litsh I believe were guys who&#039;s talents were being wasted in the farm(sort of like Adam Lind), if JP did not hit desperate times would we have seen these guys, I know for sure Bobcat doesn&#039;t think so. 

The fact that he gives external sources an opportunity befor his home grown talent is indicative of the confidence he has in the farm. Pretty sad after six years, especially knowing he didn&#039;t have the payroll he wanted in prior years.

MW:  The Jays have had back-to-back winning seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dismissal of John Gibbons was warrented and so would a JP dissmal. In no professional sport where organizations invest money in their franchises would an owner put up with mutiple losing seasons, especially if the team had a winning tradition<br />
in prior years. </p>
<p>If a GM comes out as JP did several times and specified the amount of money that will give him a better chance to contend and he gets that money, then the expectations of the fanbase will go through the roof as should the owners and the GM had just better be competitive. If teams like the twins in prior years florida and Tampa, can be competitive  with payrolls 60mill and under why can&#8217;t we. </p>
<p>Jp has ridden the payroll,injuries and division excuse. The payroll excuse is out the window, because Florida and Baltimore and Tampa this year, is a great indication that without a great payroll drafting can really do the Job , only three guys on the jays roster are fully developed draft picks in seven years from the Jp  regime. With regards to the injuries this team had last year, Dan Shulman last week on PTS said he feels that everytime injuries are used as an excuse it lets the rest of players on the roster off the hook, Mcowan says if it wasn&#8217;t for the injuries Jays would not have seen the developement of Mcowan, Marcum, Litch. With the division excuse, Florida marlins are in a division with Atlanta and The New York Mets who highly outspends them every year Yet they remain competitive this year and won it in 2003 in that same division with two big spending teams. </p>
<p>Lastly, there was a caller last night that said, </p>
<p>JP kind of used Marcum,Mcowan and Litch as a last resort, therefore can he really get all the credit for these guys.</p>
<p>Primarly he tried to aquire</p>
<p>Matt Clement<br />
Gill Mesch</p>
<p>Aquired Tolma Olka inserted him in the starting lineup<br />
Olka was terrible.<br />
Zambrano appeared in only eight starts injury progned<br />
Josh Towers was largly inconsistant, finally released.</p>
<p>Marcum.Mcowan and Litsh I believe were guys who&#8217;s talents were being wasted in the farm(sort of like Adam Lind), if JP did not hit desperate times would we have seen these guys, I know for sure Bobcat doesn&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>The fact that he gives external sources an opportunity befor his home grown talent is indicative of the confidence he has in the farm. Pretty sad after six years, especially knowing he didn&#8217;t have the payroll he wanted in prior years.</p>
<p>MW:  The Jays have had back-to-back winning seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: slobberface</title>
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		<dc:creator>slobberface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya
well maybe they will panic because zambrano is missing a start...and because ones of his legs is too long/short

MW:  It&#039;s not fantasy baseball, it&#039;s really hard to get a big-league GM to panic and do something really stupid.  Not that it doesn&#039;t happen (Kazmir for VZambrano, Mike Young for Loaiza, releasing Reed Johnson), it&#039;s just not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya<br />
well maybe they will panic because zambrano is missing a start&#8230;and because ones of his legs is too long/short</p>
<p>MW:  It&#8217;s not fantasy baseball, it&#8217;s really hard to get a big-league GM to panic and do something really stupid.  Not that it doesn&#8217;t happen (Kazmir for VZambrano, Mike Young for Loaiza, releasing Reed Johnson), it&#8217;s just not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: slobberface</title>
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		<dc:creator>slobberface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. 
gibby = boomHauer
im gonna miss him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s.<br />
gibby = boomHauer<br />
im gonna miss him</p>
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		<title>By: slobberface</title>
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		<dc:creator>slobberface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL
zaun and burnett for soto is a pipe-dream for sure...surprising to hear that from you though MW!!!
i know greggggggggory is your boy

MW:  I like Zaun because there aren&#039;t many catchers who are way better.  Soto is WAY better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL<br />
zaun and burnett for soto is a pipe-dream for sure&#8230;surprising to hear that from you though MW!!!<br />
i know greggggggggory is your boy</p>
<p>MW:  I like Zaun because there aren&#8217;t many catchers who are way better.  Soto is WAY better.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think they could hire Koufax away without much trouble&gt;

MW:  No, I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think they could hire Koufax away without much trouble&gt;</p>
<p>MW:  No, I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I have to say now is:

CITO! CITO! CITO! CITO!

Now fire JP ans we will be all set

MW:  Fish.  Barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I have to say now is:</p>
<p>CITO! CITO! CITO! CITO!</p>
<p>Now fire JP ans we will be all set</p>
<p>MW:  Fish.  Barrel.</p>
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