Comments on: Running Out Of Descriptors http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/ Covering the MLB with a focus on the Toronto Blue Jays Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:15:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Sandy - Cambridge, ON http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4115 Sandy - Cambridge, ON Sun, 11 May 2008 00:14:21 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4115 Hey Mike, I'm curious if you, Allen and Jerry keep your own scorecards for each game. I hear many of your ill-informed callers state 'facts' about the game that are incorrect. Maybe a scorecard would be a good sugestion for them. Thanks. MW: We do all keep our own scoresheets. Hey Mike, I’m curious if you, Allen and Jerry keep your own scorecards for each game. I hear many of your ill-informed callers state ‘facts’ about the game that are incorrect. Maybe a scorecard would be a good sugestion for them. Thanks.

MW: We do all keep our own scoresheets.

]]> By: G http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4098 G Sat, 10 May 2008 21:34:40 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4098 #15 is right that the "ENTIRE LEAGUE ISNT HITTING" (capitalization and spelling his). At least not hitting as well. Runs and home runs are down significantly. Personally, I don't care if malor leaguers snort 'roids off the thighs of hookers in the clubhouse. I just wish the jays could hit.(acceptable language on this site?) MW: Yeah, what the heck. #15 is right that the “ENTIRE LEAGUE ISNT HITTING” (capitalization and spelling his). At least not hitting as well. Runs and home runs are down significantly. Personally, I don’t care if malor leaguers snort ‘roids off the thighs of hookers in the clubhouse. I just wish the jays could hit.(acceptable language on this site?)

MW: Yeah, what the heck.

]]> By: William Prowse http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4087 William Prowse Sat, 10 May 2008 20:47:08 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4087 Hey Mike, I know you've heard this a lot, but we need to make a big move to get this team. If it takes giving up one of our beloved starters, I'd do it, to get a dynamic offensive player. Getting rid of our general manager. But I know we have to go after some sort of catalyst. Jose Reyes, anybody MW: I thought you had a valid point until you came up with Jose Reyes. Seriously, that's a catalyst? The guy with the career .330 obp? What they need isn't a catalyst, even a real one, this team does all kinds of catalyzing. They need a finisher. Hey Mike,

I know you’ve heard this a lot, but we need to make a big move to get this team. If it takes giving up one of our beloved starters, I’d do it, to get a dynamic offensive player. Getting rid of our general manager. But I know we have to go after some sort of catalyst.
Jose Reyes, anybody

MW: I thought you had a valid point until you came up with Jose Reyes. Seriously, that’s a catalyst? The guy with the career .330 obp? What they need isn’t a catalyst, even a real one, this team does all kinds of catalyzing. They need a finisher.

]]> By: Jim Branscome http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4080 Jim Branscome Sat, 10 May 2008 19:53:43 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4080 Yo Mike, I think I've finally figured out J.P.'s plan. He's trying to put an offense on the field that is so drab and boring that the other team's position players will fall asleep on the field and the Jays batters can run around the bases and score on infield grounders. Sure seems that way. As a public service could you please start highlighting the spelling and grammatical errors of the people who post on here in red type. That would really make this blog a lot of fun. Hope this post was short enough. MW: I couldn't possibly do that, there's just not enough time. Yo Mike,

I think I’ve finally figured out J.P.’s plan. He’s trying to put an offense on the field that is so drab and boring that the other team’s position players will fall asleep on the field and the Jays batters can run around the bases and score on infield grounders. Sure seems that way.

As a public service could you please start highlighting the spelling and grammatical errors of the people who post on here in red type. That would really make this blog a lot of fun. Hope this post was short enough.

MW: I couldn’t possibly do that, there’s just not enough time.

]]> By: Tom http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4079 Tom Sat, 10 May 2008 18:58:09 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4079 Mike, at least the bunt by Wilekerson worked out. MW: No, it didn't. He was bunting for a hit! Mike, at least the bunt by Wilekerson worked out.

MW: No, it didn’t. He was bunting for a hit!

]]> By: Ryan Benson http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4078 Ryan Benson Sat, 10 May 2008 18:46:11 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4078 Mike I have been a Jays fan since 1992 and watch and listened to the Jays game since 1996. I hope they will turn it around doon and I hope they get Alpert Pujols and Ryan Howard sometime in the next few seasons to make the Jays even better. I do know that they will get better soon since it is a long season and they can be .145 RISB all season long. They still have a chance go get to the postseason this year. MW: Yes, they do, but don't hold your breath on Pujols and Howard. That's not going to happen. Mike I have been a Jays fan since 1992 and watch and listened to the Jays game since 1996. I hope they will turn it around doon and I hope they get Alpert Pujols and Ryan Howard sometime in the next few seasons to make the Jays even better. I do know that they will get better soon since it is a long season and they can be .145 RISB all season long. They still have a chance go get to the postseason this year.

MW: Yes, they do, but don’t hold your breath on Pujols and Howard. That’s not going to happen.

]]> By: avi http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4077 avi Sat, 10 May 2008 16:49:40 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4077 How long can the Jays go with this crappy offense? I think the time has come to make a move for an impact bat like Dunn ore Bay. Also, after starting the season so nicely, it appears that Hill and Rios are underachieving. I hope the renewed contracts have nothing to do with it as players have a tendency to relax when that happens. MW: I don't believe that you'll find most players' performance drops after they get a long-term contract, and I don't think the Reds or Pirates are that willing to pull the trigger on a deal this early. How long can the Jays go with this crappy offense? I think the time has come to make a move for an impact bat like Dunn ore Bay. Also, after starting the season so nicely, it appears that Hill and Rios are underachieving. I hope the renewed contracts have nothing to do with it as players have a tendency to relax when that happens.

MW: I don’t believe that you’ll find most players’ performance drops after they get a long-term contract, and I don’t think the Reds or Pirates are that willing to pull the trigger on a deal this early.

]]> By: Torgen http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4076 Torgen Sat, 10 May 2008 16:34:26 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4076 The way Scutaro and Rios have been hitting recently (often and rarely respectively) I'm seriously thinking Scutaro should lead off against lefties. MW: As I said above, right now Rios should be hitting 10th. The way Scutaro and Rios have been hitting recently (often and rarely respectively) I’m seriously thinking Scutaro should lead off against lefties.

MW: As I said above, right now Rios should be hitting 10th.

]]> By: mike http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4075 mike Sat, 10 May 2008 16:27:45 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4075 mike , ,,, im a huge fan of the jays, a fan of of gibby and i think j.p has done a very good job. the team that takes the field every day should be scoring 5-7 runs on most nights , which would give them a much much better record and then everyone would be saying what a great gm j.p is. the team he has in very good but like you said if they at least hit 10 points lower then their avg. they would still look great. the bats WILL come around no team is this bad. do they need to throw gibby under the bus to make a statement??? i hope not. should doc come out in the public and hold the hitters accountable ?? get some guys on edge.... do you need to put a.j and someone else to get a big contract???? i love a.j but if you say he opts out then what is there to loose???? im a pitchers guy mike and you would think having pitching like this they would be unstoppable. im starting to go crazy and loose sleep lol which is pretty darn sad.... the guy i work with at nights is from boston so he gives it to me every night about red sox celtics and the pats. lets go blue jays!!!!!!!! from the gut who cant spell!!! MW: Really, it's sad that you're proud of the fact that you can't spell. mike , ,,, im a huge fan of the jays, a fan of of gibby and i think j.p has done a very good job. the team that takes the field every day should be scoring 5-7 runs on most nights , which would give them a much much better record and then everyone would be saying what a great gm j.p is. the team he has in very good but like you said if they at least hit 10 points lower then their avg. they would still look great. the bats WILL come around no team is this bad. do they need to throw gibby under the bus to make a statement??? i hope not. should doc come out in the public and hold the hitters accountable ?? get some guys on edge…. do you need to put a.j and someone else to get a big contract???? i love a.j but if you say he opts out then what is there to loose???? im a pitchers guy mike and you would think having pitching like this they would be unstoppable. im starting to go crazy and loose sleep lol which is pretty darn sad…. the guy i work with at nights is from boston so he gives it to me every night about red sox celtics and the pats. lets go blue jays!!!!!!!!

from the gut who cant spell!!!

MW: Really, it’s sad that you’re proud of the fact that you can’t spell.

]]> By: Mark http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4074 Mark Sat, 10 May 2008 15:42:11 +0000 http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/mikewilner/2008/05/09/running-out-of-descriptors/#comment-4074 Mike, In the last post you mentioned that bringing in these guys (mench, wilkerson) for free is worth a shot taking as it is a low risk, high reward type of move. What I don't understand though is the overall plan that JP is mastering here. Since he has come on as the Jays GM, I have seen numerous shortstops, Left/right fielders and third baseman come here to play. Heck it seems as though JP is always patching up his mistakes each year by trading this player or acquiring that player....all to replace players he brought in! With Tomo Ohka and John Thompson, he brought those guys in thinking that he had nothing else in terms of starting pitching when two young guys were staring him right in the face the whole time, and they only got a shot by fluke chance. Don't get me wrong, I liked the Rolen trade, BUT Scott Rolen was Troy Glaus who had replaced Corey Koskie who had replaced Eric Hinske, who JP signed to a huge contract. This was over a span of 4 years. Don't even get me started with the outfield as it is even more confusing. The only continuity I see with this GM is the number of aqcuisitions he makes in order to stockpile his roster full of B-Grade offensive talent. The offense seems to click every three years (2003, 2006) so the Jays will probably click on all cylinders in 2009. Thankfully, JP won't be at the helm at that point. MW: I've already addressed the Ohka/Zambrano/Thomson thing many times. Again - low risk, high reward, bought a little extra time for McGowan and Marcum to develop. I have zero problem with that. McGowan didn't get his shot by fluke chance, he went down to AAA and dominated there as he never had before, earning his call-up. The third base thing - yes, signing Hinske long-term was a mistake, but a universally praised one at the time, coming off a rookie of the year season. Who knew he would eat his way to two crappy years in a row? Ricciardi has acknowledged that Koskie was a mistake, and Rolen, I believe, is an improvement over Glaus. What's wrong with continually trying to be better than you are? Mike,

In the last post you mentioned that bringing in these guys (mench, wilkerson) for free is worth a shot taking as it is a low risk, high reward type of move. What I don’t understand though is the overall plan that JP is mastering here.

Since he has come on as the Jays GM, I have seen numerous shortstops, Left/right fielders and third baseman come here to play. Heck it seems as though JP is always patching up his mistakes each year by trading this player or acquiring that player….all to replace players he brought in!

With Tomo Ohka and John Thompson, he brought those guys in thinking that he had nothing else in terms of starting pitching when two young guys were staring him right in the face the whole time, and they only got a shot by fluke chance.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked the Rolen trade, BUT Scott Rolen was Troy Glaus who had replaced Corey Koskie who had replaced Eric Hinske, who JP signed to a huge contract. This was over a span of 4 years.

Don’t even get me started with the outfield as it is even more confusing.

The only continuity I see with this GM is the number of aqcuisitions he makes in order to stockpile his roster full of B-Grade offensive talent.

The offense seems to click every three years (2003, 2006) so the Jays will probably click on all cylinders in 2009. Thankfully, JP won’t be at the helm at that point.

MW: I’ve already addressed the Ohka/Zambrano/Thomson thing many times. Again – low risk, high reward, bought a little extra time for McGowan and Marcum to develop. I have zero problem with that. McGowan didn’t get his shot by fluke chance, he went down to AAA and dominated there as he never had before, earning his call-up.
The third base thing – yes, signing Hinske long-term was a mistake, but a universally praised one at the time, coming off a rookie of the year season. Who knew he would eat his way to two crappy years in a row? Ricciardi has acknowledged that Koskie was a mistake, and Rolen, I believe, is an improvement over Glaus.
What’s wrong with continually trying to be better than you are?

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