Sunday November 28 2010 – 4:31pm Eastern – Toronto, ON

Toronto falls to 6 and 11 on the season, losing to the Atlanta Hawks 96-78.

THE START

Raptors – started Joey Dorsey (not Amir Johnson) in place of Reggie Evans;  Andrea Bargnani led all scorers with 9
Hawks -coughed up only 1 turnover;  used a balanced attack to go up 4 (27-23) after 1 Q;  shot 55% FG

AT THE HALF

Raptors – used a 10-2 run to wipe out a 7-point lead for ATL but then fell down again by 8;  Leandro Barbosa had 8 points in the 2nd QRT
Hawks – got 9 PTS in the QRT from Marvin Williams (leads all scorers at the half with 14);  led at the half, 52-46

AFTER 3

Raptors – shot just 3 of 17 from the floor;  were out-scored 25-11 by ATL (Hawks up 77-57)
Hawks – Josh Smith dominated the QRT with suffocating D and he filled up the stat sheet w/ 9 PTS, 5 REB, 2 ASST, 1 BLK, and 1 STL in the QRT

THE FINAL FRAME

Raptors – DeMar DeRozan scored 10 in the QRT but it was far too little, far too late;  Raps finished the game at just 39% FG Hawks – built their lead up to 23 points early then cruised to the 18-point win

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ALSO OF NOTE

Bargnani scored only 5 points in the 2nd half

Jose Calderon did not have an assist in the 2nd half, finishing with 5 dimes, and 3 points on 1 for 7 shooting

Josh Smith recorded a triple double for the Hawks:  12 PTS, 13 REB, 10 ASST

Atlanta scored 50 of their 96 points in the paint

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Post game edition of The Rap, including a post-game interview with Hawks center Al Horford: [audio:http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand/therap-ericsmith-20101128.mp3][audio:http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand/alhorford-es-20101128.mp3]

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The Raptors will stay in Toronto … getting set to host the Washington Wizards on Wednesday night at 700pm Eastern at the ACC.  Paul Jones and I will be on the Fan 590 with the tip off.

Have a good one

E. Smith

16 Responses to “Hawks Hammer The Raptors”
  1. 1.

    U.G.L.Y.

    And they ain’t got no alibi.

    I can’t fathom what happened today. It was sad to see, but these games are going to happen. Especially with a young team. These types of “energy” losses are expected. I say energy because their was none. It’s not like the Hawks were playing out of their minds or anything, it’s just that the Raps didn’t show up.

    Oh well…life will go on. this is one of those games (like the last game vs. Washington) that you take your lesson and forget the rest.

    Hopefully this team will learn that no matter who is on the floor, everyone needs to hustle. Regardless of the score or who the opposition is.

    It happens.

    Let’s forget it and move on.

    I’m excited for Washington on Wednesday.

    The shirt is now 2-2, but will not be washed until the Raps win again.

    LET’S GO RAPTORS!!!

    - T.J.
  2. 2.

    Sorry for the grammar folks…work Christmas party last night

    GO RAPS GO!!!

    - T.J.
  3. 3.

    How come they can’t play defense like the first preseason game against the Suns? They smothered them like cheese over a burrito. They have it in them, they just need to bring it. Bayless was the only guy out there going strong to the basket. I don’t know what else they need to do to get motivated for every game. They are young so they should have lots of energy. Guess you are right TJ, learn from it and move on.

    - Nick
  4. 4.

    TJ…I don’t think you’re giving the Hawks nearly enough credit. That team is good. Really, really good.

    As a Raps fan, it’s so frustrating watching Atlanta play. They are just loaded with young, athletic, smart, aggressive, improving, hungry players. Watching them go from the laughing stock of the NBA to one of the best young teams in the league has been a very depressing experience for this Toronto fan and season seat holder.

    Why is it that teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Oklahoma City, Portland, etc., can turn things around so quickly, but the Raptors seem perpetually stuck on either stinking, barely missing the playoffs or losing in the first round???

    The answer? Terrible management and a faceless ownership that has nothing at stake and no figurehead to be held accountable to p****d off fans.

    - brento.
  5. 5.

    Hey Eric,

    Sometimes a better team knocks you to the matte and you lose heart. It wasn’t their defense that let them down this game, it was their offense. I think they only scored 11 points in the 3rd quarter (or something like that). Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Jack Armstrong mentioned on a couple of occasions that the key to the Raps is often offensive toughness. That when a better team like ATL increases their defensive pressure, That Toronto needs to learn to fight through that. If the team wants to cheer up, tell them to look at the standing. I think the Cavs have the 8th seed right now, and they’re 7-9. There are a lot of bad teams in the East this year.

    - Michel G
  6. 6.

    they win a couple of games and then raptors fans all of a sudden think there going to be heading to the playoffs or something. That’s why there’s an 82 game season there four game winning streak means diddly squat especially this time of year. You want to some be successful? go buy or rent nba 2k11 and use the raptors that’s the only way you will see them being successful.

    - steve
  7. 7.

    You also have ot remember that without Reggie, it’s a definite morale blow for a team without much attitude and even less mental/physical toughness. Reggie has been one of the few things worth cheering for this year….Peja being out didn’t help with a short bench either. Ed Davis should now get his shot sooner than later.

    Another injury or two, and a built in excuse has been delivered to trade a few assets (Reggie?) that don’t fit into the long term plans and move closer to a great draft pick.

    I think I’ve watched this season in TO before.

    - Gary
  8. 8.

    brento…and everyone else who is perpetually negative regarding their sports team of choice…I am giving the Hawks all the credit they deserve. They didn’t play out of their minds. They beat a sub 500 team by 18 while only allowing 78 points. Whoop di do.

    The Hawks aren’t that good. They are a young team that was missing a key ingredient a few years ago. Along comes Mike Bibby and the team takes off. What they did have, and this is something every team needs, was an incredible first round loss to the Celtics in 2008. That was one heck of a series and the Hawks took off after that.

    The Hawks know what it takes to win. They saw it first hand and capitalized on it.

    The reason teams seem to be leapfrogging the Raptors in terms of development is that they have been able to hang on to their key piece for longer stretches of time. Guys grew up together and learned together in order to BECOME the teams they are now. Remember how bad they were just a few years ago.

    You said it yourself, the Hawks were the laughing stock of the league. Then they got high draft picks began to rebuild. The difference is, those teams have the SUPPORT of their season seat holders. They were patient because they were wise enough to wait.

    These things take time. Colangelo needs time to let this team grow. Wait until next year when BC has some cash to spend and TWO first round picks (maybe more before the season is out).

    I’m excited. I’m not judging THIS team. They will be fine. It will take 3 years for this group to reach it’s potential.

    I’ll be there when they do.

    Can anyone else say that?

    - T.J.
  9. 9.

    Unbelievable how folks around here think Ed Davis is the answer to the Raps’ problems. Crazy. And, my feeling is the majority of these guys have likely never even seen the guy play.

    The reality is that even if he is to be a significant contributor, it certainly won’t be this season. The guy is a stick. A big, tall, skinny pogo stick. He will be outmatched by nearly every power forward/centre in the league, and will be seriously challenged to stay out of foul trouble during the initial stages of his career.

    Anyone thinking Ed Davis will jump into the starting lineup and start posting numbers ought to give his head a big shake.

    - brento.
  10. 10.

    Don’t put Joey Dorsey but, AMIR!

    Agreed T.J

    Has for Eazy Ed going to post numbers when he plays, not going to happen but, lets hope Jay plays DeMar, Bayless, Amir and Barg more Often!

    - Nik
  11. 11.

    Wow, TJ. I was with you until you began spouting off about Bryan Colangelo rebuilding this team (yet again!).

    Face it. BC has been the stiffest of all stiffs over the past five seasons in Toronto. Players — far, far too many to name — have been brought in and then shot out of this town since he planted his butt at the ACC. Nearly every transaction he’s directed has either failed or fizzled. Whether drafting, trading, or extending contracts, Colangelo has done essentially ZIPPO to instill trust in his season seat holder, and fan, base. It’s starting you right in the face, TJ.

    As for your comments regarding the Raps versus Atlanta, once again you’re off base. The key difference between the two teams is talent. Check this out:

    Joe Johnson
    Josh Smith
    Al Horford
    Mike Bibby
    Jamal Crawford
    Marvin Williams

    Chris Bosh
    Andrea Bargnani
    Jose Calderon
    Demar Derozan
    Amir Johnson
    Jerryd Bayless

    Which team would you rather have? OK, fine. It’s a trick question, with only one answer.

    It’s the GM’s responsibility to acquire winning players and then surround them with every reason to stick around for a while. The fact Bosh gave this ridiculous franchise seven freakin’ years of loyalty still surprises the heck out of me, given the junk it has thrown at it’s fans over the past 10 years.

    Build a winner and the players will stay and even more will line up to come. That is exactly what happened with the Jays in the late 80s.

    That has happened only once in Toronto, and it was nearly a decade ago. Since pantload Colangelo arrived, we have had a revolving door of losing, overpaid players and a ridiculous firing of a coach who demanded accountability from his players.

    Colangelo MUST go!

    - brento.
  12. 12.

    Ed Davis won’t post off the chart numbers, but it will be nice to see him play. He won’t turn the team around this season, but he will provide us a glimpse of the future and what this team might look like in 2 or 3 years.

    I’m excited, and so should every true blue Raptors fan.

    - T.J.
  13. 13.

    Sorry brento…you’re wrong again. It is the GM’s responsibility to acquire talent in the hopes that it will aid the team and fit in with the current philosophy.

    How is it BC’s fault that Kapono didn’t show, O’Neal got hurt, Ford was a whiner, Garbo got hurt, Delfino went back to Europe and last but not least Turkoglu. How is it BC’s fault that Turk laid the biggest egg ever in Toronto.

    Last I checked, Turk was the best talent available two summers ago. I say BC did his job and brought in the talent, like he has done and will continue to do.

    You seem to forget BC victories:

    1) Trading Hoffa
    2) Trading Turk
    3) Trading Ford
    4) Trading O’Neal
    5) Trading Marion
    6) Trading Bosh
    7) Developing Bargs
    8) Drafting Bargs
    9) Drafting DeRozen
    10) Hiring Triano
    11) Hiring Carlesimo(sp?)
    12) Finding Weems
    13) Trading for Amir
    14) Trading for Evans
    15) Winning a Division Title

    That looks pretty good to me.

    But…maybe I’m naive. After all, I don’t hold season seats.

    - T.J.
  14. 14.

    TJ…if you can’t find fault in Colangelo’s mistakes, you can’t find credit in his successes.

    That’s fair, no? It’s Psychology 101..the internal/external locus of control concept. Apologists believe a person’s mistakes are externally caused (ie. an injury) and successes are internally caused (ie. a draft pick developing into a star).

    In this case, he’s responsible for both. The problem? Since a complete fluke year in which the team still was beaten in the first round of the playoffs, there hasn’t been any success.

    Nothing but losses, my friend. Go ahead, support Colangelo. You can have him.

    I’ll take a winning GM, anytime :)

    - brento.
  15. 15.

    And, btw, TJ…trading/drafting a player or hiring a coach is not a victory. That’s Colangelo’s job. Not sure how you came up with that conclusion. It’s pretty ridiculous.

    Trading/drafting/signing coaches and players that go on to long playoff runs and championship titles denotes success.

    How is drafting Demar Derozan or signing PJ Carlissimo a “victory”?

    Confused.

    - brento.
  16. 16.

    Brento,

    Atlanta is NOT one of the great young teams of the league. They’re never gonna get out of the second round because they’re built the way they are. Sorry, but Marvin Williams was only marginally great at NC (you would know, because I’m sure you follow college ball).

    - Mike
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